12yr. old shot by police in Cleveland (another toy gun)....

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  1. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    A clue? No, I have no idea WTF you are talking about. You post words with no substance behind them. You seem to have a problem with personal and parental responsibility.
     
  2. anomaly

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    And should you ever find your self in this situation I will bet the farm you won't be singing the praises of the police officer that shot you kid, and you certainly won't be on the internet telling everyone how it was the 12 year old's fault! Or the parents!!!
     
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    How? Are bullets less lethal being fired from a 12 year old?
     
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    That you have no clue what the word empathy means doesn't surprise me in any way.
     
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    It's just sad. I have the utmost sympathy for all parties involved. This could have ended peacefully and it did not...
     
  6. Tahuyaman

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    We now have a society where children are committing murders because people like this anomaly character support not holding parents accountable for teaching their children standard of decency.

    Then this person blames a police officer for shooting a 12 year old when the kid pulls what looks to be a lethal weapon on the officer.
     
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    I'd Imagine he would be smart enough not to have his kids running around with replica guns pointing them at people....
     
  8. anomaly

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    That it "could have ended peacefully" would have been more the police officer's responsibility than the 12 year old's.
     
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    I agree with you. However, the best way it could have ended peacefully was by the kid not pulling the gun in the first place. There's a reason the kid did that. There's a reason the kid thought that was an acceptable thing to do. It's tragic that a 12 year old needs to be shot because he was not taught proper respect for people, not just police.
     
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    Yeah cause you and he know exactly what a 12 year old will and won't ever do!

    Statements like this just clearly show how much some adults have no clue what they are talking about when it comes to kids.
     
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    I would hope that as the parent of that boy I would use that incident to wake me up and then go out and try to impress upon others the value of good parenting and to not make the same mistakes I did as a parent.
     
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    Not really. There is no way the officer could have known the gun was fake. He acted appropriately and I'd have done the same in his situation.

    Don't pull a gun on someone, real or fake, and you won't get shot for it.
     
  13. JonathanBlu

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    I am not singing any praises for the police officer. I feel terrible for him, the child, and the child's family. Nobody wanted this.
    And you are wrong, if you have kids you no doubt understand what it feels like to even think about or imagine losing them, but if my kid pulled a realistic looking gun on a cop after the cop told him to put his hands up and after being taught that doing so could be lethal then emotions aside, no matter how distraught I am over the loss of my child, it was his fault, not the police officers. I will reiterate because you do not seem to be getting it. If you pull a gun on a cop, fake or otherwise, you will be shot, and it will be justified. I learned this at 6 years old, I assume you are about 15 or 16 so you should definitely know this by now.

    Also, I bet you don't have a farm.
     
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    I can sure remember some of the things I did at 12 years old and I also. Know what I would not have done at the same age. But then I had parents who actually took an active role in my life.
     
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    Yes, you are demonstrating that clearly and quite effectively.
     
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    There's a million reasons the kid could have done what he did but you want to make it all about preconceived stereotypes.

    Maybe the kid was just trying to show them it wasn't real.

    Maybe the kid was trying to just throw it down.

    Maybe the kid didn't hear the police officer correctly and thought they told him to give it to them... There are a million maybe's but you automatically start with "the kid was taught to be a thug".

    If it were your kid you would have started exactly where the parents of this child's did... "whats the matter with this police officer he was just a kid!!!"

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    You think your funny... but your not!
     
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    I don't think its funny. I think it's sad.
     
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    You make a lot of assumptions here.

    ] And again any one who claims they know exactly what a 12 year old would have or would not have done in every situation clearly demonstrates they don't really have a clue about 12 year old's!

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    That people will blame a kid for his own death is very sad!
     
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    You can come up with a million "if's" and "maybe's". I can come up with the single way to prevent such horrible tragedies in the future. All you can come up with is hand wringing excuses.

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    Clearly I have put much of the blame on the kid's parents. I guess you missed that part.
     
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    What the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you expect kids to do with a toy gun when given one? Where were the parents and why was the safety tip removed? None of you cop haters have explained either.
     
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    Whatever happened to police demanding the suspect put the gun down? Especially to a 12 year old boy. When did police shoot first before asking questions?
     
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    There is a lot of what ifs there. What if the kid didn't pull a gun out of his waistband when the cop told him to put his hands in the air?
     
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    Knowing what I'd did do and would not do when I was a 12 year old and having parents take an active role in my life is an assumption? Explain that one.

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    What if the kids parents taught him to not challenge a police officer when he comes in contact with one?
     
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    They did... What happened to posters reading the article so you can debate it?
     
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    When it was in fact his fault who are we supposed to blame?
     

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