12yr. old shot by police in Cleveland (another toy gun)....

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  1. Hairball

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    Most definately. I think we can agree on that point. It's a no-brainer.
     
  2. Reason10

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    There was no fcking murder. A brat was ordered to drop the gun. He didn't. He got a dirt nap for his troubles. Justice is served. Saves the taxpayers a butt load of welfare and incarceration costs later on.

    Sometimes, the Darwinism thing works.

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    There was no murder. There was a cop defending himself against a perceived threat. It was a justified shoot. The brat brought in on himself by playing with that gun, threatening people and then not dropping the gun when ordered to. If anything, this is a suicide on the part of the brat.

    No murder.

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    You call them pigs now, but if some scumbag has a gun on you and is about to rape your daughter in front of you, you would give those officers head to stop it.
     
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    Right,...because young Tamir was about to rape an invisible little girl that was standing next to him at gun point, impregnate her, spawning 10+
    welfare babies right before killing everyone else in the immediate vicinity while committing murder-suicide......I bet he had a WMD in his pocket too...
     
  4. Hairball

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    Bullcrap!

    The Right Of The People To Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed. -- 2nd Amendment, US Constitution.

    Notice that it does not restrict this constitutional right to pigs.
     
  5. Hairball

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    Bizarre stuff like that only happens in your strange imagination, Reason 10.
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if a cops feels like his life is threatens, real or not, he has the right to use lethal force

    can a cop abuse that right, absolutely, but they still have that right


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    Your life cannot be threatened by a BB gun that isn't even pointed at you.

    That is a fact that is indisputable.
     
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    White Man With Pellet Gun Shot Dead by Cops; Media Silent ​

    by Selwyn Duke
    05 January 2015


    White is right — in activists’ book.

    That is, the right color to ignore when it comes to stories of people shot by police.

    So says American Thinker editor Rick Moran while reporting on the shooting of a pellet-gun wielding white man on Sunday by San Francisco police. The Washington Post describes the incident:

    The shooting occurred in the parking lot of the San Francisco Police Department’s Mission Station [at 5:20 p.m. PT]. In a statement, the department said that the confrontation began when police sergeants asked a man in the station’s restricted lot to leave. Instead, the man stood in the middle of the driveway blocking their exit, police said.

    When the sergeants approached him again, asking the man to take his hands out of his shirt pockets, they said they saw “what appeared to be the butt of a handgun” sticking out from his waistband, the statement said.

    “Fearing for their safety and in defense of their lives, the sergeants drew their service weapons as the suspect pulled the weapon” out, the police statement said. Two sergeants shot and hit the man three times. He was declared dead at San Francisco General Hospital shortly before 8 p.m.

    Police later learned that the man had an air gun, or a replica gun, they said.

    (Excerpt)

    Read more:
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...ith-pellet-gun-shot-dead-by-cops-media-silent


    I'd say equality was shown here. The man wielding a pellet gun was shot by police. No racism here. Guess it's only racist when black people do this. It's called suicide by cop.
     
  9. Hoosier8

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    Sure you can.

    The part of the story that is never told by the media is what Tamir was holding when he got shot.

    It wasn't just a 'toy' gun as the media claims but an Airsoft gun that looks like the real thing right down to the safeties. Airsoft guns are so real looking that they are often used for training and are so real looking that they are required to have orange on the end of the barrel to be able to tell it from a real gun.

    What the media won't tell you is that the orange end had been covered with black tape making the cop unable to tell it from an Airsoft gun. Whoever covered it with tape is the real killer.

    This is what Tamir was holding when he got shot, a 1911 without the orange tip.

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  10. Anders Hoveland

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    Yes, same thing here too. But things were different back then, in the 50's there were not all the high-crime neighborhoods and juvenile delinquency that appeared in the 80's. Police could see a 16 year old carrying a riffle down the street and not think they were up to no good. Today it probably wouldn't even be legal for a 16 year old to carry a rifle down the street.
     
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    What if we turned that around the other way?
    Being a cop shouldn't be a free pass to use lethal force whenever you feel the slightest bit threated.

    I do not believe they should have more right to use deadly force than anyone else.
     
  13. FreshAir

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    I do not disagree with you... I want cops that believe they are in real danger to be able to defend themselves, but I think some cops are abusing this power

    I would like more copcams, so the public can see what is really happening

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    that does seem to be the attitude of the bad cops, those are the ones we need to get out of the system

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    Don't you want other people who believe they are in real danger to be able to defend themselves too?
     
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    Looks like the real McCoy to me.

    Smart criminals have been painting the tips of their gun barrels orange lately, giving them an edge when they intend to shoot a cop.
     
  16. Anders Hoveland

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    And criminals have also been dressing up in uniforms impersonating cops lately, giving them an edge when they encounter a victim too reluctant to defend themselves against a perpetrator who might be law enforcement.
     
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    yeah, they should just shoot the gun out of his hand like they do on TV.... and while you are asking for expert level shots, why not ask them if they could shoot the cigerrette out of his mouth, too,

    I don't know what's more asinine, you thinking cops are trained snipers, and can expertly shoot the smallest, fast moving parts of the person that's pointing a gun at them....


    or the fact that you are assuming the cops knew it was a fake gun and shot anyways....


    sure, if I know it's a fake gun, I could easily subdue a 12 yo without shooting him. However, I'm under no obligation to give him benefit of the doubt to investigate that it's a toy or not, if he's aiming it at me.
     
  18. APACHERAT

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    That happens a lot in the L.A. area.

    But I hear there's been a drop in such incidents in the black neighborhoods since the Obama administration has approved of shooting cops. :smile:
     
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    Obviously the cops were racist for not using their psychic abilities to ascertain that it was a fake. A non-racist cop would have allowed the kid to withdraw the gun from his waistband and shoot him once in the stomach, then, once the cops intestines started to fall out of the gaping wound onto the ground, he would know for sure it was a real gun, then he could shoot the kid. Sure, the cop might die if we did things this way, but at least he would die knowing he wasn't a white supremacist, and that's gotta count for something, right?

    Maybe in some black communities where they have "the talk" with their kids, instead of saying, "when you get caught commiting a crime, make sure to not make any sudden moves in front of the officer who is questioning you", perhaps they could say, "hey son, don't go around robbing stores and trying to grab guns out of the hands of cops, you could get shot. Hell, they even shoot white people for that (*)(*)(*)(*)!"

    Just a thought.
     

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