12yr. old shot by police in Cleveland (another toy gun)....

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  1. JonathanBlu

    JonathanBlu Member Past Donor

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    What a concept...

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    Come on guy, I know you have been here long enough to know better than that.
     
  2. anomaly

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    I do and it is why I can't abide low life's saying terrible things about any kid they don't know. Or their parents after a tragedy such as this.


    But you would not jump on the internet and start rambling on about how the kid should have known better and he got what he deserved. In fact I'd bet the farm you would be very upset to see others doing so!


    You will reiterate in an effort to convince yourself that what you say is true, you know very well that I can read.


    Your assumptions are clearly revealing your limited mental age. Guess again it's very entertaining


    And I'll bet you are white, in your late 40's early 50's, republican, christian and don't have a farm.

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    You and facts don't really get along very well together do you?
     
  3. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Where does it say that in the article?
     
  4. anomaly

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    What if you don't assume you know all the facts of this situation.
     
  5. Tahuyaman

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    I had toy guns which looked quite real when I was a kid. I actually remember my Father telling me to only point them at cans, trees and gasp.... Birds and squirrels, but never at people. When I said "dad it's just a toy". He said treat it as though it's real. And imagine that, I did what my Dad told me to do. Except the one time he caught me pretending to shoot my neighbor. He took it away from me for a while.
    And told me why that is unacceptable. I was eight or nine then.
     
  6. JonathanBlu

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    What I say is true though. If you pull a gun, fake or otherwise, on a cop, you will be shot. That is not up for debate, it never has been.
    And to think that you are any older and not aware of this is frightening. It makes me think you would pull a gun on a cop and expect not to be shot.

    Also, wrong on all counts. Except the farm, I don't have a farm.
     
  7. RP12

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    Authorities said the officers told Tamir to raise his hands, and shot him when he pulled the pellet gun from his waistband.
     
  8. Tahuyaman

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    When you tell someone to stop and they actually respond by pulling a gun, it's too late to say "drop the gun".
     
  9. JonathanBlu

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    Who's assuming? Cop tells kid to put his hands in the air, kid instead pulls a realistic looking gun out his waistband. Cop shoots kid. There is nothing to assume here.
     
  10. Tahuyaman

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    Now it's a pellet gun? I thought it was a toy with the red cap removed? Is there more to this story?

    If this is so, I could believe there's some lying by omission in this story.
     
  11. rahl

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    The facts show it was his fault.
     
  12. Tahuyaman

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    Cough...ahem....
     
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    You were not at this event so you don't really know what happened or why. I'll guess you never as a 12 year old found your self in the same situation therefore you don't convince me you know what you would have done from just your guesses and verbal ramblings.


    All you can do is apply your stereotypes here, you aren't even able to imagine any other scenario other than the one you want to apply. The one that makes you feel superior.

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    I know you hate them too!
     
  14. JonathanBlu

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    What point are you even trying to prove or get across? That if you pull a gun on a cop that the cop shouldn't shoot you? How is this topic even up for debate? What is wrong with you?
     
  15. anomaly

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    Well I'm going to ASSUME that if it were your kid you would feel a little diferently!
     
  16. JonathanBlu

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    You keep going back to that but what bearing does it have to do with anything? If my kid or anyone's kids pulls a gun on a cop, they will be shot. What do my feelings have to do with that?
     
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    Feeling empathy for someones dead child is not now nor has it ever been something there was something wrong with.

    Getting on the internet and spewing insensitive analogies and or assumptions concerning the death of another's child... Yeah hate to tell you this but there is defiantly something wrong with that!
     
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    You would not get on the internet and claim that your child bears all the responsibility for it... and yet you are willing to do it when it involves some one else and their kid!
     
  19. rahl

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    Again, the facts show it was the kids fault.

    The officers had no other choice. They told the kid to put his hands in the air and he instead pulled a pellet gun on them.
     
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    I've been wondering the same thing.
     
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    Well personally, I would take the lion's share of the blame upon myself. It would be very painful to admit that my failings as a parent cost my Son his life.
     
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    Seems to me he wants to make this about race so he can call posters racist...
     
  23. JonathanBlu

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    So your point is that you assume I don't feel bad for the kid? Or that I am a bad person because I'm saying that you shouldn't pull a gun on a cop because you will be shot? What is your perspective on this issue? What point are you trying to prove? What viewpoint are you trying to get me to see that I'm not seeing? Please explain.

    You would feel bad if it was your kid.
    You are insensitive.
    You should have sympathy for this kid.
    You are making assumptions.

    These are not topics of debate.

    The cop could have acted differently.
    Police should wear cameras to prevent confusion regarding incidents like these.
    People should not try to politicize events like these and instead discuss like rational adults what we as a society can do to prevent this from happening again.

    These are all valid points of discussion that I would be happy to converse with you about. But calling me unsympathetic, telling me that if it were my dead kid I would feel differently, and attacking this cop who was doing what he was trained to do is not only disrespectful to me but disrespectful to every police officer working to keep you safe, and disrespectful to the memory of this kid who clearly made a mistake that hopefully we can teach future youths to never repeat.
     
  24. Hairball

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    I do blame them. If the pigs think the can shoot someone for having a gun then they should just shoot each other.

    The 2nd amendment does not only apply to pigs.
     
  25. Regular Joe

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    I would know for a fact that I was not fit to be a parent.
    My father gave me my first gun when I was 4. That's when my right minded firearms education began. By the time I was 12, I had my own deer rifle, a .357 Mag. revolver, an 8mm Mauser, and several .22's, both rifle and pistol.
    There are things in life that are dangerous. It is the responsibility of every single parent on earth and in history to teach their children about these things. If you have "issues" with that, you need professional help.
     

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