21% of Those Tested in N.Y.C. Had Virus Antibodies

It is the height of absurdity to claim that a virus is "not a serious threat" or is "virtually no threat" simply because it doesn't kill you.

 

Some of these threads are like watching a pack of monkeys fu@# a football.

We barely have 2.6 million confirmed cases in every country combined and this is assuming we have that in NY state.

These test are from China and I quote “frankly dubious quality”.

 

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I'd like to see the data on the reliability of the tests and confirmation of whether possessing antibodies means that you are actually unlikely to contract the virus again.

 

Are you going to stay home for another year?

 

No, but I don't see how any business that requires a crowd to turn a profit is going to return to any semblance of normality until a vaccine is discovered, proven, and mass produced/distributed.

That is what I mean by the economy remaining under tremendous strain.

Some businesses are capable of altering their models to adjust for a lack of crowds (or never needed them in the first place) and are capable of keeping their employees safe.

 

DP pols have always stood for systemic institutional racism and mass extermination. They never run out of ways to rationalize impoverishing and killing human beings. Ordinary American Democrats are finally leaving the DP behind

 

Its deadly to the people it kills, but only kills a small percent of those it infects, just like influenza

 

I assume you didn't know that during the great depression the Democratic party was make of southern states with conservatives leaders.

 

Well yes, that's what the antibodies do, same results as getting a vaccine. The vaccine causes our immune system to attack the virus (in the vaccine) and create antibodies.

What we don't yet know is how long we will have those antibodies. In most cases, we should have them for several years.

 

Well that's a relief. It would be really scary if this virus was deadly to the people that it didn't kill.

 

That article is trash, it even says it's making the assumptions off unreliable data. Click bait for the non-critical thinkers.

 

Yes and no.

You also need a sufficient number of the antibodies to prevent an infection (or reduce the severity of the infection) and a question remains about the effectiveness of the antibodies against the potential for multiple strains.

 

Are you trying to get Lesh sick?

I mean that is what he is claiming...

 

Same would apply to a vaccine then.. Just like the Flu shot its only effective ( and that varies per year anyways) on how lucky they are guessing which strain(s) are going to impact a region.

 

More than that die from cancer and heart disease each year. Are we going to radically overhaul our entire society in response? No? Then why would we do it for a virus that poses virtually no threat to 99% of the population? Because muh feels?

 

Look, if you want to hide forever and slather yourself with hand sanitizer, then you are free to do so. But the rest of us want to live like normal human beings and we have every RIGHT to live that way. There is simply no justification for stripping society of basic freedoms because a tiny percentage of the population might die from a virus. That is the bottom line.

 

Would be really nice if we didnt live on planet earth

 

NYC has a population of 8.4 million and 150,000 official cases. That is a 1.8% infection rate. I have heard 13% for the percent with antibodies there. So we are underestimating by a factor of 10. But lets assume that.

Right now we have 50,000 deaths and 85,000 recoveries, and 830,000 more to go. We are surely going to get more deaths from cases we already have. Lets say 150,000 die. But then, a lot more are going to be infected, so lets say that 250,000 die total with the lockdown.

This 250,000 number is actually a bit higher than the Trump administration estimate of 100,000 - 200,000 deaths with a lockdown. The Trump administration estimates that 1.5 million to 2.4 million without a lockdown. This makes sense because a lot more people will be infected without a lockdown. In fact it is an underestimate because the healthcare system will be overwhelmed and a ton of people will die without care.

If we assume that we are undercounting by a factor of 10, then we have 8,700,000 cases instead of 870,000 cases. While this reduces the lethality, it increases the contageousness of the virus. It means that millions have been infected even with a lockdown and we would certainly see exponential growth of the spread of the virus without a lockdown. Lets say this thing infects 100 million people without a lockdown.

If 150,000 out of 8,700,000 cases die, then that is a 1.7% death rate. If 100 million are infected, that is 1.7 million who die. This is in line with the Trump administration estimates. Also, given that hospitals will be overwhelmed, the real number would be closer to 5 million.

 

Herd immunity coming soon in spades to every street corner.

 

No one is arguing that society will never return to normal - that will happen AFTER a vaccine is mass produced and distributed. It has nothing to do with feels.

 

That bottom line is pure trash. This is a pandemic and we need to care for every American in order to keep the mortality rate as low as possible.

 

We have a yearly flu vaccine... many thousands die a year from the Flu.. We did not change society due to it...

A Vaccine is not going to stop every strain of this.... You keep claiming Trump claimed there was a "miracle cure" when he did not say that but that is what you are pushing a vaccine as....

All your hatred and insults directed at him should be thrown right back at you.

 

Is that supposed to contradict something from my post? Read again:

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How is keeping society shut down for a year taking care of every American.. Logic man not feelz!