74% of covid cases in MA outbreak were vaccinated

Is that what it is this week? The supposed benefits keep changing as time goes on. And no, that's not how vaccines work. When was the last time you heard of your neighbor having polio?

 

Look, dude, if you don't want to get vaccinated or don't want to wear a mask, don't do it, but stop polluting the forum with your weird phantasms!

 

Dying from Covid is slim to zero. Less than 1%.

 

Funny, last time anyone checked, its Blacks and Latinos who are refusing in majority numbers to get vaccinated. Wouldn't those be Biden supporters?

 

I don't think they actually voted for that racist...I think they just don't have good options and the democrat party at least discusses issues blacks face while Republicans have been shoving them under the rug for years. Maybe that's changed, but old habits die hard, I guess,or maybe that's why Trump go a record number of votes as a republican candidate.

 

If Biden got 81 million votes, higher than Obama, they would have had to turn out in masses.

I don't think Democrats are addressing their needs. I think its more like exploiting.

 

Yes, it is how it works. We dont have polio because the vaccine prevents people from getting sick from it. Anyone who was never vaccinated against it can still get polio.

If you don't want to the Covid vaccine, then for christs sakes don't take it. No one cares.

 

I think people get way more laid back after taking the vaccine
For example before the vaccine I was UV lighting all of my groceries and now I don’t

 

It's almost as of you can make statistics prove whatever you want them to.

Nothing in the op is incorrect. 4 of the 5 in the hospital were fully vaccinated. 75% of the newly infected were fully vaccinated. All true.

Make of that what you will.

The system is far more complex than a single variable in a small sample of a small closed system, but go ahead and keep on thinking it proves something one way or the other, because science!

 

You realize this medication is not the polio vaccine, right?

Comparing the two is like comparing a bicycle to a self driving Tesla.

 

Vaccines function in many ways, not one specific way.

This one injects you with rna instructions for your own cells to produce proteins. These proteins simulate the creation of antibodies used to remove them from the body. The hope is that the proteins our bodies create are similar enough to the proteins present on the virus that the same antibodies will also target the virus.

If the protein changes (Delta) the chances that the artificial antibodies will recognize them is reduced.

 

Who is making up statistics? It's an article about info from the CDC. Just because you don't like what it says, doesn't mean it's not true.

And it's looking like the vaccinated are super spreaders.

 

That does not matter. The claim was made that it would stop the SPREAD. Get it? If getting vaccinated does not affect the spread, then you can stop attempting to create a police state to force the unwilling to get a vaccination. Vaccinating will not stop the spread according to this data. Since that is the case, why in the hell should you care if anti-vaxxers get sicker? We are the other and we should die.

This the TRUE FACT. About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC. Don't EVER EVER EVER EVER say that my vaccination status has ANY impact on the health of others. IT DOES NOT AND THIS DATA PROVES IT!!!! Tell the government/corporate goons who would use coercive authoritarianism to strip our body autonomy from us to stick that into their pipe and smoke it. Our body, our choice and it is no damn business of ANYBODY else what our decision is.

 

It seems obvious you misunderstood. It does not form a bubble around you to keep viruses off your body. If keeps you from getting sick, so if everyone was vaccinated, no one would get sick and the virus could be ignored. Now we have half the population who are not vaccinated and they are getting sick. The goal is to reach herd immunity, but in order to get there more people will need to be vaccinated, but at this time it seems it is not going to happen, so the virus will hinder the nation as whole for a long time.

 

Didn't say statistics were made up. Didn't say I didn't like them.

Said you can make them fit any narrative you want.

Especially when you strip them from the systems that produce them.

How many of the 5 had comorbidities? What are their ages? Which vaccines did they receive? What were they hospitalized for? How and where were they exposed? How many people did they infect?

On the other side of the statistical coin do you realize there's a difference between efficacy and effectiveness?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/health/covid-vaccine-95-effective.html

 

Wow, facts really ruffle your feathers.

 

No problem with facts. The problem is with the way people build a narrative out of them.

 

What narrative? We were told that the vaccines were a key to getting back to normal, but they haven't made a dent and now we have to speculate if they are responsible for Delta and other new alterations of the virus.

 

Since 95+% of people being hospitalized are unvaccinated, it proves beyond any shadow or doubt the vaccine works. As a result there is a surge of of unvaccinated people in all States getting the vaccine. Peoples refusal to take the shot delayed herd immunity and we are paying the price, but it seems people are coming to their senses.

 

Does this mean that should you get Covid you'll pay all the expenses for your treatment and that of those that you infect?

I'm cool with that.

 

Are you implying the vaccinated aren't infecting others? Are we still touting that lie?

 

Given that Pfizer has a written and disclosed agreement with the United States government that it does not know the long term effects of the vaccine and can't be held legally responsible for them, who is going to pay for the treatment of those long term effects if they turn out to be catastrophic and wide spread?

 

The vaccinated are far, far less likely to pass on an infection because their bodies are attacking the infection and preventing it from reproducing. Yes, for a brief period after their initial infection they are as infected as as anyone else. What is different is their bodies are not producing more contaminants. So yes, the vaccinated can infect others but at a rate far from that of an non vaccinated person.

 

That was the initial exempted rollout, now they're moving to the standard liability. Try to keep up.

 

Pure made up bull hockey. They've done no such thing.