74% of covid cases in MA outbreak were vaccinated

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  1. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LoL... they had a leaker. The agreement specified that the terms couldn't be released for 30 years but a whistleblower leaked it. The MSM has done a good job suppressing the story but it is out there.



    You should read the terms. Big pharma has hit the jackpot.

    https://clarion.causeaction.com/202...ent-shows-they-risk-nothing-while-cashing-in/

    PS. Good luck finding this on google. Google has killed any whiff of this story. DuckDuckGo is your friend.
     
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  2. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All completely incorrect. Even the CDC isn't saying that anymore. It has been proven false.
     
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    Scotland is having an increase in deaths among the vaccinated in their third wave.

    https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/29/87-percent-covid-deaths-are-vaccinated-people/
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Deaths from what?

    You fall for it every time. This is the same source who argued there were x number of deaths after people took the vaccine, and it turned out they were normal deaths from natural causes. The vaccine doesn't make anyone immortal. If you get ran over by a truck, you still die.

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    Funny how y'all look for something to be able to ignore actual data if it doesn't fit your bias.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pfizer can't know the long term effects since no long term studies have been done and yes, they required immunity to supply the vaccine since testing was cut short.
     
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    Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease

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    Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) is a serious concern with the vaccines and may be a ticking time bomb. ADE causes more severe reaction to the virus than not having a vaccine.
     
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    More inconvenient truth. Nevertheless, the pandemic and the vaccines have worked very well for the stinkers who really matter.

    New York (CNN Business)The imminent authorization of Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine in the United States is a momentous occasion for science, the economy and humanity. The milestone is also a major moneymaker for the companies that developed the vaccines.

    Wall Street analysts are projecting Pfizer and Moderna will generate $32 billion in Covid-19 vaccine revenue -- next year alone.

    That doesn't take into account the goodwill boost these companies will receive by helping to end the worst pandemic in a century. That boost is magnified for Moderna (MRNA), a young biotech company that few people had heard of before 2020 that could now be on the cusp of getting its own FDA authorization.

    Pfizer (PFE) by itself is projected to haul in $19 billion in Covid-19 vaccine revenue in 2021, according to Morgan Stanley. That's on top of an estimated $975 million in 2020 vaccine revenue.”
    CNN, Pfizer and Moderna could score $32 billion in Covid-19 vaccine sales -- in 2021 alone, By Matt Egan, CNN Business, Fri December 11, 2020.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/business/pfizer-vaccine-covid-moderna-revenue/index.html

    The sweet smell of success!
    Yet another reason to wear a mask. ;-)
     
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    That's the problem, I AM looking at your data, but you are not

    People died. It does not say what they died of, they just lead you to assume it is because of the vaccine, because they mention the vaccine. An increase or decrease of 5 is well within the normal fluctuation.

    Its classic propaganda, and you fall for it every time.
     
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    Yup...

    COVID is No Big Deal...
    Nobody Died of COVID....
    Nobody Needs to be Vaccinated....

    The Whole "COVID Scam" was Dem. Party Jedi Mind Control Trick...

    Sure thing...
    I will be sure to make a note of it...

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    LOL, the deaths were due to Covid. Try and keep up.
     
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    Why am I not surprised you come up with complete nonsense when presented with facts?
     
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    Likewise. Trump supporter and got the vaccination. The left blame everything on Trump. To them he is a supernatural being with God-like powers.
     
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    You are quoting from a pseudoscience source and they are simply talking about "deaths" and they WANT you to think its due to Covid or the vaccine.

    You are too easy.

    You guys can't stop talking about "Trump the victim". Who is blaming him for this surge? No one.
     
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    You are not even aware this isn't about science but about published numbers but hey, if you can find a way to ignore the actual numbers then have at it.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    That's just as been doing, it's the left on this site "You know, the one you're posting on" that's harping twenty four seven to get one, labeling me and other around the country derogatory names. So how about you use that sternness and tell your buddies to behave. I'm sure they see you as some sort of leader here, but I don't :)
     
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    Ahh the word from the DRC, where getting folks to wear a condom is impossible :roll:
     
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    None of the alleged vaccines are even licensed yet. There is no way they will give up immunity while unlicensed.
     
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    Be patient, lot of this stuff doesn't get thru "Radio free DNC" :(
     
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    That narrative. We don't have two identical closed systems we can observe, one without an effect caused by mRna vaccines and one with. The only systems we can observe are the ones that actually exist, and each of those is confoundingly different. There's no concrete way to objectively control for all the different influences within different systems and point your finger at one specific cause of the different outcomes between those systems. We'd need three identical societies to test your theory. One administers a single type of vaccine to everyone with no other change in behavior. One tries some other intervention, masks & social distancing for example. One makes no change to behavior at all. After a long enough period of time you might be able to prove that one strategy produced better outcomes than another. But even then there's always the chance that letting the experiment run longer would change the outcome. Maybe in 20 years the offspring of the people who survived and developed natural immunity to Covid-19 are all immune to Covid-20. Maybe it's the other way around. Would we even know? Systems are fickle like that. You can't measure what didn't happen as a result of something that did.

    All you can do is make a guess at a subjective measurement of risk. What's your individual long term risk of taking the vaccine? No clue. It simply can't be measured because it hasn't been around a long time. What's your individual long term risk of natural immunity to covid-19? No clue. It hasn't been around a long time either. Make a choice. You don't want it? Don't take it. But don't go imagining that you're making this choice because the facts told you to. It's all feelings. It's how you feel about the facts that leads you to your decision. The facts themselves don't tell a story on their own. That happens in your head.
     
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    Sorry this is hard to follow, the only thing the vaccination does is it may keep you from getting really sick. You can still get it, you can still spread it, so to say it delayed herd immunity is simply not factual. Oh I'm vaxxed so don't try to spin it.
     
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    Seriously, where are you getting this information that being vaccinated helps not spread covid?
     
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    It is very factual. Humans are crawling with viruses and bacteria at all times, but if our bodies can fight them off, then they become irrelevant. Our hospitals would not be filling up if everyone had been vaccinated. If no one was getting seriously sick we could be crawling with Covid and our bodies would get used to it and get stronger and stronger against it and it would become irrelevant, or its impact would be like common flu aka we would return to normal life. Ironically it sounds like you dont even disagree with this, but want to sound like you do. Odd.....
     
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