A honest question I really want an answer from Repubs

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  1. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Egypt and what ever other countries were part of Arab Spring. Next.
     
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    And if it were only privately held small arms taken up against the British, the United States wouldn’t exist because the militias consistently got their asses handed to them.

    Professional soldiers beat the British. Privately held arms in the hands of militias spent a lot more time being thrown to the ground when those militias fled the field in retreat.
     
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    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Revisionist history, a staple of the leftness.
     
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    Exactly what small arms brought down the Egyptian government?

    If you are talking about Libya, then no, military grade weapons looted from Gaddafi’s arsenals won, not privately held small arms.
     
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    The United States over King George III?
     
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    Do you have any familiarity with the word "Minutemen"? Do you know who they were?

    If not, you should learn something about them.

    History seems to be something you're creating to fit some agenda.

    Perhaps I'm wrong, but that is how it's coming across.
     
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    You know those 'militias' were the ones organized and morphed into said professional soldiers after American leaders of the revolution thought they had a fighting chance?
     
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    First, gunpolicy.org is a gun banner site. Do your research, know your source.

    Second, Switzerland has mandatory part-time military service for men age 19-26, and it can be voluntarily extended. These people are issued military firearms including automatic rifles ("machine guns" for those who don't understand firearms) which they keep in the homes.

    Switzerland has a very high percentage of the population who have guns in the home. The International Small Arms Survey claims Switzerland is ranked #3 in firearms ownership at 46 firearms per 100 people (the USA is ranked #1 at 89 per 100). http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/H-Research_Notes/SAS-Research-Note-9.pdf

    Third, Switzerland does not publish its official crime reports in English, so I have to use a secondary source. In 2016 there were a total of 97 homicides, for a homicide rate of about 1.1 - that's all homicides and attempted homicides, all weapons.

    That's a low number, much lower than Australia. The EU tries to hide its actual rates and tries to hide comparisons between countries, but the homicide rate for the entire EU is 1.03 (not counting the UK).

    Trying to get reliable data for "gun related homicides" is too much work - too much BS, the EU is far too PC, Switzerlands reports are not in English.

    Overall, your argument fails and is based on emotion and BS.
     
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    Yes, the Minutemen were utter failures. They lost almost every fight they had with the British and on the few occasions were they won, they only did so because they outnumbered the British on scales of 4 or 5 to 1 and even then took upwards of 75% casualties compared to the British.

    The Minutemen and the other militias were a joke and had the war effort been forced to rely on them, we would still be a British Commonwealth Nation today.
     
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    The British were defeated by professional soldiers equipped from state arsenals not by privately held small arms.
     
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    Not quite. The militias that tried to integrate with the professional regiments were regarded as Little better than defensive cannon fodder and half the time they had huge portions of their ranks AWOL.
     
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    Wow. Pretty sad. Just can't get past the facts can you?

    Cling to what you must.
     
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    The facts are that privately held small arms would have lost us the Revolutionary War but professional soldiers equipped from state arsenals won it.
     
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    Do you know of any method to stop the gun-runners from taking the means of killing into the country?
     
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    No. Invented facts are a poor replacement for documented history.

    Curious why you would think such an effort would work.
     
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    The facts are that those armed farmers had a right to protect themselves from the British and that it took both the regular armies and the armed farmer fighting along side, together, to defeat the British.
     
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    I’m curious why you think the Revolutionary War was won by militias.

    Were the professional soldiers in the trenches at Yorktown militias? What about the French Navy ships maintaining the blockade? All manned by French militiamen?
     
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    So thank you for admitting privately held small arms did not defeat the British.

    The armed farmer spent a lot more time running from the battlefield than fighting alongside the professional soldiers.
     
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    And where would that be?
     
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    Like you were there. Why do you think the Constitution was written the way it was?
     
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    You're not wrong. That is what's happening.
     
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    Tell me where did these 'professional regiments' come from, Australia?
     
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    LMAO - the most clichéd 4 letters in the history of the internet. What an original and thoughtful debate response. That's ones going to leave a mark. Mind if I borrow it?
     
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    The militias played a key role in the defeat of the British. That is an historical fact.

    No agenda driven need to rewrite history can change that.

    I'm done. Carry on.
     
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