A woman who had a miscarriage is now charged with abusing a corpse as stricter abortion laws play ou

never took that first breath of life, was never born

 

The baby was not flushed down the toilet. There was blood in the toilet and the baby was in a bucket next to the toilet.

 

You obviously didn't read the article from the OP. She was at the ER three different times and left on her own, by self-checkout, three different times for uterus bleeding or vaginal bleeding. This is a serious medical issue.

 

The situation unravelled on 22 September, when Ms Watts returned to the hospital and told healthcare providers that she had miscarried into a toilet and then used a plunger to flush. Upon her return to Mercy Health, a nurse alerted police to the end of her pregnancy. Investigators searched Ms Watts’ home and found the 22-week-old foetus wedged in the toilet’s pipes.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...atts-abortion-abuse-corpse-ohio-b2467763.html

 

She checked herself out 3 times voluntarily and against the recommendations of healthcare professionals.

 

I read the article completely and my comments directly address it. Try addressing them and her actions once the baby was born.

 

I’ve posted the links of the specific Ohio law that was broken son.

you sound like the people who say child support laws are made to punish black men.

 

child support laws were to make people with money support their children, they were never intended to punish the poor, but sadly that is an unintended consequence

marriage rates and number of children is dropping though, many men don't want to play the game anymore

 

Puerile CONDESCENSION content duly noted.

PROVE it.

Where are the LINKS to those POSTS?

 

Does anyone actually recall being properly educated about what to do with a fetus if you are at home and have a miscarriage? Is it an appropriate 911 call when there is no imminent emergency? Here it is 6 am in the morning so her doctor's office is probably not open except some third party service. I suspect the last thing this woman needs, is to add another medical bill to 'assess' this fetues, or an ambulance bill to what she already has for a dead fetus and the second to the last thing she needs to the cost of cremation or burial. I don't think there is an intuitive better answer at all here, and I don't know if its covered in those birth classes, even if she had gone to them. This 62 yr old father of three, has no idea what I''d tell my wife if she asked me what to do with the fetus.

 

If she was even in a “rational” state of mind at the time.

 

You HAVE? Sorry but I have not seen one accurate post on this yet.

 

Which she has every right to do. You get that people CAN walk out of an ER and not be charged? Now let’s say this was a man having a heart attack and he left the ER - does the nurse have a right to contact the police to have him charged with attempted suicide?

 

If you are a lay person, who does not deal with this kind of thing, and you have this blob of cells, blood and tissue sitting in your toilet, what do you do with it that feels like the right thing to do until you get professional advice? Do you put it in a trash bag, or a box, are you supposed to leave it in the toilet as 'evidence' or move it? What feels like the legal, 'respectful' and practical thing to do with this? This is not the sort of thing that women sit around and discuss around a cup of coffie or that you anticipate happening. Frankly, I never thought of the question, let alone the answer.

 

Most people's FIRST instinct would be to FLUSH the toilet.

 

Abuse of corpse!!!

 

Exactly.

Sewers must be FILLED with those "corpses" by now.

Just surprised the entire system isn't CLOGGED already since there must be MILLIONS down there!

 

Did she know it had to be reported and in what time frame? This was not an elective abortion but a miscarriage

 

Because it is surprisingly common. She would have also passed large clots and may not have been aware initially of where the “baby” was. This was a miscarriage

 

Information which seems to be at variance with more reliably sourced information

 

that does not mean it was flushed down the toilet. It was in a bucket. What she did was give birth while sitting on the toilet instead of the "traditional" lying down and giving birth while her partner said to push.

You may want to read further into the article of the OP. There the police discovered the fetus in a toilet. Remember, based on the autopsy, the fetus never took a breadth, was not viable at birth or even before birth, and thus, miscarried the fetus. There are very serious medical questions that need to be answered first before any criminal case can proceed that can have a direct bearing of the criminal case. For starters, we need to look at the medical history of the pregnancy. What was the prognosis of the OB/GYN at every stage of development? If so, why was not a medically necessary abortion performed if it was discovered that the fetus was nonviable, even in the third trimester? Furthermore, if she did not go to a medical physician during the pregnancy, why was that? Money? Family? BF/SO refused to support her during this time? These questions and more need to be answered first before and depending on the answers will depend on the outcome of the criminal proceeding. As I said, I think she needs more medical help than anything else, and don't see any type of criminal liability here.

Furthermore, when it comes to a miscarriage, there is no birth certificate, no death certificate, no SSN or other Taxpayer Identification Number, nothing. It was never alive to begin with and was not viable according to the autospys report. That autopsy report is not the Prosecution's best friend here even with a charge that she is facing.

Yes, and? You do know that is part of the "patient bill of rights" which is something that conservatives championed in the 1990s and beyond.

 

This thread is following a recent pattern. On 'page one' Nobody is defending this prosecution regardless of politics. Everyone is talking as though this was about a rogue prosecutor who clearly had no clue what he was doing, and overstepped. Its nearly universal outrage. But as time has gone by, its been taken over by RW posters who are now starting to defend this prosecution. Its the same set of facts, the same law, but the positions have moved inexerably to justify the prosecutor's decision based on something, some nuanced rationale.

What starts as an outlier event, having no connection to / with abortion laws or a pro life political/ legal stance and thus outside any plausible legal credibility, is now a lot more justifiable. Matter of fact they are justifying what they did not earlier. There is never an outrage based on excess zeal, that stays universally outragious.

 

The only song about maternal misfortune and death

 

we said it many times, anti-choicers are not just going after abortion

they will go after birth control and even punish women for having miscarriages it seems

 

After that will be the ENSLAVEMENT where women are OWNED by MEN.

The Xtofascist controlled GOP has no LIMITS on what it will DO to We the People.