A woman who had a miscarriage is now charged with abusing a corpse as stricter abortion laws play ou

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this is why you should never speak to the police, you have a right to remain silent, always use it

    "She miscarried in her bathroom. Now she’s charged with abuse of a corpse."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/12/15/ohio-woman-miscarriage-abuse-of-corpse-grand-jury/

    "For more than an hour, Detective Nick Carney interviewed Watts, 33, about the details of that morning and the whereabouts of the nearly 22-week-old fetus that was declared nonviable two days earlier. As Watts described miscarrying in her bathroom, a nurse at Mercy Health — St. Joseph Warren Hospital rubbed her shoulders and told her everything would be okay, Watts told The Washington Post in a series of text messages."

    "Two weeks later, Carney arrested Watts on charges of felony abuse of a corpse for how she handled the remains from her pregnancy. If indicted and found guilty, she faces up to a year in prison along with a fine of up to $2,500, her lawyer said."

    oh and get this

    "Watts later learned through her lawyer that the nurse who had reassured her had reported her to the police."
     
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    don't fall trap to the partisan hate mongering in the OP. The OP oh-so-conveniently left out some major details

    However, “Brittany Watts signed herself out of the hospital against medical advice on 9/19/2013,” the coroner’s office report states. CNN has asked her attorney about why Watts may have left the hospital without having the nonviable fetus induced, as recommended by the medical staff.

    The next day, September 20, Watts returned “for the same issue and left against medical advice again,” the coroner’s office report states.

    I still find it ridiculous for her to be charged with how a corpse was handled but that's just my opinion and the law is the law. Who knows? The kid might have survived if she followed the advice of medical professionals. Anyway, just don't fall victim to the hate mongering. People selectively pick and chose the lines they paste from an article for a reason....be smart, see THROUGH that reason

    Good day
     
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    So your response is it doesn't matter? It matters legally and it matters to a woman who had a miscarriage if you call it an abortion.

    The lefties who use white-collar institutions to redefine things in order to effect political opinions and laws are sick in the head and immoral.
     
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    First of all, I would never advocate for an abortion with the woman in my own life. My wife had two miscarriages, although at a much earlier stage. A miscarriage is, by itself, already a traumatizing experience, no need for crazy laws to make it even worse.

    In any case, where will those zealots stop? Will they chain a woman with an at-risk pregnancy to bed for 9 months, with police supervision, so she doesn't do anything that could increase the risk of a miscarriage? This is starting to get out of hand.
     
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    Current events? :roll:
     
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    Maybe. In the new world order where candidates can be taken off a ballot of an entire state for NOT being convicted of anything I would say anything is possible. Including forced pregnancies (not something I advocate for but Crazy leads to more Crazy which puts this issue as the fault of THE LEFT)
     
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    because they could not help her right away as were concerned about the legal issues... so she left as all she was doing was waiting, she could do that at home
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what is the difference?
     
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    Often legal terms are defined written in the law and supersede general or even scientific meaning and is specially necessary when common use conflicts with scientific or medical professional etc... If we are talking about the law in the context of Gop laws and the prosecution, it matters.
     
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    It's also very insensitive to a woman who suffered from miscarriage to argue that it was an abortion because of medical doctrine even though it implies something related to intent due to common use.
     
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    "Sorry don't believe confirmed liars."
    A.K.A. P01135809 , you know the twice impeached liar, the one (P01135809) with 91
    indictments:buggered:



     
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    This thread had nothing to do with Trump
     
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    You understand virtually nothing about me. What an arrogant assumption.

    Swarming like buzzards is not what you seemed to be claiming. You post indicated a conspiracy on the part of media, which is why I asked. Apologies if the question upset you.

    (There ... now perhaps you understand the arrogance and insult when someone assigns emotions to you. Please don't do that.)
     
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    I don't think they're competent enough for conspiracy. So I never implied conspiracy you inferred that. Probably because you think they're more competent than they are.
     
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    It's easier for him to just dismiss any story he doesn't like.
     
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    None of that was reason for your insult.
     
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    And staying at the hospital ain't cheap when Doctors are discussing with lawyers if a medical procedure can land them in jail.
     
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    And just because you're insulted by something I said doesn't mean it was an insult
     
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    There were no doctors and as far as I know it wasn't in a hospital. Even if it was flushing miscarried remains down the toilet is messed up.
     
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    They will not stop until they are stopped
    (non violently of course)
     
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    Don't think they haven't considered something along those lines, though only for certain demographics of course.

    They know something this extreme will only work in certain cases, so for everyone else expect increased government monitoring of and intervention in the lives of pregnant women. There are already Texas counties passing laws targetting pregnant women driving or being driven through their counties. The fanatics will start demanding medical records, monitoring of pregnant women by medical providers etc. etc.

    This is going to get a LOT worse before it gets better in the fanatic states, and the usual suspects will deny, deflect & rationalize every single step.
     
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    Do you know why she signed herself out? Because there are lots of reasons people do this every single day. Everything from “the kids need me” to “my partner will beat me” to “I cannot afford to stay” to “the ED staff are treating me like ****”…..

    And there was never a plan to “save the baby”. If she had oligohydramnios as has been reported that baby would not survive and it was a matter of time until foetal death occurred.

    https://www.marchofdimes.org/find-support/topics/planning-baby/oligohydramnios

    I really really really hate it when “medical opinions” are given by people who have not even bothered to look up the basic facts
     
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    Which is why when speaking to the public medical staff will use “miscarriage” but the documentation may say “spontaneous abortion”

    :roll:
     
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    No link I see
     
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  25. FreshAir

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    and in this case, what is the difference?
     
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