A woman who had a miscarriage is now charged with abusing a corpse as stricter abortion laws play ou

“Crotch fruit”……??? Bet you’re a hit with the ladies….

 

Yep. Did you notice how those who support this stuff are vilifying the woman? They think it is her fault that she miscarried. And this is where this will be going. If a woman miscarries, they will claim that she wasn't careful enough, or she was negligent. And then the investigations and criminalizations will start. And those same people claim that they are freedom lovers.

 

the group that pushed for this crazy law does not want her charged

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-new...criminal-charge-against-woman-who-miscarried/

"COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The physicians’ group behind Ohio’s newly passed reproductive rights amendment is urging a prosecutor to drop criminal charges against a woman who miscarried in the restroom at her home."

 

You do realize that prior to trying to have the baby and hide the evidence, she was told multiple times that it wasn't going to survive right?

You epitomize the statement, "those who can, do, and those who can't, teach".

 

Her mom must be the breadwinner.

First of all, where does it say she had to be pressed about where the fetus was? Second, as I said in my last post (and you conveniently omitted), where ones the law say you need to report a miscarriage, either immediately or at all? Please point to that precise language in the Ohio code. And third, even if she was required to report the miscarriage immediately, why wasn’t she charged for that violation instead of abuse of corpse?

You seem to be outraged by how this woman acted after the miscarriage. But the fact is you can’t point to a law that put this woman on notice that she was required to immediately report her miscarriage.

Conservatives on this forum are always quick to report insults when they are on the receiving end and I’m sure you’re no exception. But I won’t stoop to your level. Insult away. It just shows that you are insecure about your position.

 

I think many here lack information about the causes of miscarriages.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...loss-miscarriage/symptoms-causes/syc-20354298

"The term miscarriage might sound as if something was amiss in the carrying of the pregnancy. This is rarely true. Many miscarriages happen because the unborn baby does not develop properly."

For you: "About 10% to 20% of known pregnancies end in miscarriage. But the actual number is likely higher. This is because many miscarriages happen early on, before people realize they're pregnant."


It happens all the time. It often happens when we're using the toilet. It will look like a couple of large blood clots, and the woman often just thinks her period has started and it's going to be a heavy one. Flushing the fetus isn't "messed up" if you don't know it's even there. Try not to judge women so harshly.

What do you think a woman should do with a miscarried fetus?

 

Not sure, all I was saying is I understand why the state's not too pleased about this.

 

I get you. In my opinion, though, none of this should be any of the state's business.

 

Then all of the craziness of the left is the fault of THE RIGHT.

 

I guarantee the right would be rioting in the streets if anyone were held responsible for checking out someone for COVID against medical advice.

 

If it's criminal behavior then it is. I'm sure people think that prostitution shouldn't be the state's business or not who you marry you shouldn't be the state's business but it is. If you want to go without changing it I would support you in some things.

 

Covid was an excuse to discriminate the person and bankrupt people and none of it that any good.

It was designed in a lab for this reason.

 

I knew there was something more to the story they're always is. Leftists love to act like or just right on the cusp of becoming a Christian theocracy but the reality is much different.

 

yep, this was a miscarriage, not an abortion

the doctors were afraid to do what is right as they may risk being charged

same happens with pain pills for people in severe pain, doctors afraid to prescribe

this is what government coming between doctor and patient does

 

Any Xtofascist controlled GOP state that REQUIRES the reporting of a miscarriage will get what it DESERVES, millions of women sending their used menstrual pads to the dumbasses who passed the law and the governor who signed it into law. They will have a literal MOUNTAIN of EVIDENCE on their hands to sift through on a DAILY BASIS.

 

Her mother makes good money, but Dad paid the bills while mom was in dental school. Feel free to search what entry level production engineers earn at Shell, then extrapolate 19 years of a work experience and a masters.

LMAO!!!! So she went to a hair salon because that's what people do after delivering a stillborn baby. I don't believe I ever said immediately, but deaths generally have to be reported to the police, hospital, coroner, or whatever else. Feel free to research Ohio law on your own.

I'm not outraged, nor do I really care. You decided to make this an issue about abortion son. I simply posted an Ohio law that she broke.

I was trying to help you there.

I mean she admitted to hiding the pregnancy from her mom and everything. The morons in this thread want this to be an attack on an innocent woman who loved her unborn baby by the religious right, but that simply isn't what happened.

 

You missed this?

"A prosecutor said Watts’ actions after passing the fetus are at the center of the case.

“The issue isn’t how the child died, when the child died. It’s the fact that the baby was put into a toilet, large enough to clog up the toilet, left in that toilet, and she went on her day,” prosecutor Lewis Guarnieri said at preliminary hearing last month, according to footage from WKBN."

Why didn't she call paramedics and the police so the coroner could make the proper determination in this life of a human being who was born.

 

A human being who died...................call the paramedics and the police so a proper determination can be made. Her baby was 21 weeks and 5 days old.

'Miracle baby': Born at 21 weeks, she may be the most premature surviving infant



https://www.today.com/health/born-21-weeks-she-may-be-most-premature-surviving-baby-t118610

 

WAIT A MINUTE it is you who argues that miscarriages ARE abortions.

Seems your principles are entirely situational.

 

good point, a miscarriage is an abortion, I should have said it was not medically assisted abortion, it was a spontaneous abortion (also known as a miscarriage)

 

She was charged with abuse of corpse, not child neglect. People have miscarriages all the time. There is no duty to report a miscarriage which is why they aren’t charging her for failure to report it. But, like you, the conservative prosecutor wishes there were such a duty, which is why he’s trying to make this woman “pay” by nailing her with a trumped up abuse of corpse violation. Dirty tactic? For sure. But for Trumpers the ends always justify the means.

 

Yes and? Maybe she didn’t believe the doctors and thought it would - hope can make people do crazy things

 

Yep! The correct term for miscarriage is “spontaneous abortion”

 

It never fails. First, they come for abortion rights; next thing you know, they are prosecuting women for having a miscarriage. They ought to be ashamed!

 

One -out of how many? And I am betting that they had time to give the mother corticosteroids to “mature” the baby’s lungs. I remember a NICU nurse friend telling me of a 22 week old that they tried to save - as they were attempting to insert the tubes the skin was ripping. When we say that the baby would suffer we do not say it lightly