Arlington National Cemetery tries to erase blacks and women

I saw you can't read the actual claim. But keep arguing that pure animus is legal. Your libertarian card has definitely been revoked, dude.

 

I see you're still flailing, and now you've gone from moving the goalposts to propping up strawmen to ad hominem sandbox antics.

Here's your ignorant claim, in red:

My response, in red:

What we see is that you can't refute what I posted, and you can't refute what I posted because you're wrong, and all your deflections, fabrications and pathetic little ad homs will never change that. There is no "right" to serve, only a privilege, and not only is that a fact, it is a fact that Judge Reyes acknowledged in her injunction.

What straw will you grasp for next?

 

You are obviously unaware of this case. Please read her actual injunction and understand that these soldiers are being kicked out due to bigotry and animus alone. You are using the exact same excuse that was used to keep black people out of the service or to keep them segregated. Same thing. Same argument.

 

You obviously can't address what I posted - that there is no "right" to serve, only a privilege.

I've actually read her actual Memorandum Opinion which is how I know she explicitly acknowledged that service is a privilege, not a right. Did you actually read it? if you did you would know this.

LMAO!!! So Judge Reyes used "the exact same excuse that was used to keep black people out of the service or to keep them segregated".

That's F'ing hilarious.

No, we merely pointed out the fact that service is a privilege, not a right, as you erroneously claimed.

The question of whether or not the Trump Admin can deny or revoke that privilege in this case is an entirely different matter, and that was not even addressed in my response to your claim/post.

 

You are claiming that, based on animus toward a group alone, the president can remove social groups from the military. You aren't even familiar with your own argument. It is ****. Transphobic ****.

 

I'll go with the facts.

You said they were being removed, they aren't. That was false.

 

Because white wienes were never given special attention or recognition. Hard to remove something that didn't exist.

Which is precisely the point you can't seem to comprehend.

 

Ummmm.....no. They were removed

https://www.google.com/search?q=arl...xMzYwNGowajSoAgCwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

Those who got special attention actually did something special. I know its hard for many on the right o accept that woman nd people of color actually did something, but in your world its because they somehow got special treatment, and were elevated above white people for no reason.

With respect, its the right is now saying the quiet parts out loud. The right thinks that if your a straight white male, your being discriminated against, because there is no way a woman or a person of color could be better that a straight white American male. All you white males are ALWAYS the victim in Trumplandia.

 

So, all you're going to do is twist what is said rather than respond honestly. Thanks for being a prime example of why Democrats lost this last election.

 

Really, can you point me to their website which celebrates whites or one that points to all the white grave sites? Why should there be specific webpages and guides celebrating blacks and women but not white men?

 

I too observed bigotry on the part of my parents and vividly on the part of my best friend's parents when I was a boy. But it never rubbed off onto me. My life's journey taught me to think of people as valuable based upon what they do and what's in their heart. I also learned well that good and bad comes in all colors.

One thing I want to comment on is one of the things you said - "being accepted as valuable individuals is still a struggle." It struck me that, even though I am a white male, nobody ever accepted me as valuable until I proved it to them. In every job I've ever done, I've had to prove my worth, knowing that if I didn't, I could be fired from that job. I can vividly remember being watched carefully every time I changed employers. The new employer expected me to learn the job, be self-motivated, and be trustworthy and reliable. Nobody accepted me as being valuable just because I was a white male.

The other thing you said is that "we aren't there yet." But you must admit that things are much different (for the better) than they were when we were born and when we were kids. And while old attitudes take time to die out, I think, for the most part, those old attitudes are history. Those who hold on to them are becoming a smaller and smaller minority, almost to the point of insignificance. So if "we aren't there yet", when will we be? Excepting the outliers, I think we are pretty much there.

And so, going back to the original topic of this thread, I think the time has come to remove a "cutout" in the Arlington website for black and Hispanic heroes. Instead, we ought to simply have summaries of notable heroes - white, black, Hispanic, Asian, Pacific Islander, and Native American - all based upon their deeds, as brave and patriotic Americans. I think the time has come to celebrate and honor our American heroes - not black Americans, not Hispanic Americans, not white Americans.

Just ... as Americans.

And if not now, when?

 

I hear a lot of “bbbut what about white guys?”, but no coherent rebuttal to posts explaining why celebrating the accomplishments of others shouldn’t make secure white men angry.

 

Um, no. They were not.

The names of those service heros still exist.

From your article:

On the cemetery's website, internal links that directed users to webpages with information about the "Notable Graves" of dozens of black, Hispanic and female veterans were missing on Friday.

The pages contained short biographies about veterans such as Gen Colin L Powell, the first black chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which is the highest rank in the military after the president.

 

Everybody buried there did something special. They werent recognized for that special action. They were recognized for their race and gender.

Nobody on the right is denying all kinds of people did things that are amazing.

We deny giving special accolades to people for doing something while being a non-white male.

Seems like kind of a silly reason to justify accolades for their amazing actions. I would be pissed if i did something amazing, and it was recognized because i did it with blue eyes. But here we are.

They were elevated for being non-white.

Thats racism you know?

Nonsense.

We have been complaining about this stupid racist BS from the progressive left since ridiculousness like Affirmative Action hit. It's as ridiculous now as it was then.

The problem is, you want to be racist against white males, disallowing them the same special treatment for the same actions because of their skin color.

Youre just angry your being called out on it. This has been going on for decades.

because we are being discriminated against.

Nope, your trying to make everybody else out to be racist to cover for your own racism.

Just admit it. You are racist against whites, specially white males.

Let me guess, white males deserve to be discriminated against in the name of equitable justice. Right?

 

Just waiting for Trump to issue an EO stating that all references to the colour of Rosa Parks and Obama must be removed from all publications

 

Maybe I'm missing something, can you point me to the Arlington webpage to highlights all the White Men or any of the White Men who are honored noted for being White or a special list of where all the White Men of special note are buried? If not having your race celebrated why does it upset blacks and you that blacks and other races will not be so singled out?

 

No, and they haven't been.

Please tell me, why do you ask? Why are white men so insecure about their status in our society? Why is equality such a threat?

 

I wasn't complaining! On which part of "imparting information" was I unclear? And which part of "thank you" did you not understand? I won't do that again if all I get back is a slap in the face. There's no pleasing you guys . . .

 

I'll just respond to this part, hope that's okay.

I hope you aren't implying that women and non-whites don't have to earn respect. That would be a personal slap in the face to me, who had to do twice as good of a job as my male coworkers in order to be seen as almost as good. Fortunately, that wasn't very difficult.

 

No, not at all. What I'm implying is that everybody has to earn respect, even white guys. But I agree that, as a woman, you probably did have to be extra good at your job to get respect, especially if you were in a male-dominated profession. And especially back in the 60s and 70s.

 

So the internal links that contained information about black soldiers were "missing", but the webpages still exist, if you know the exact URL.

Ok....

 

So the claim is now that the only reason those people got special recognition is because of their race/gender ?

But we need to scrub any information that would direct you to them.......

so racism and sexism......ok.....

so in WWI and WWII you do understand that black and hispanic americans were legally discriminated against, and yet still served and fought for a country who claimed them second class citizens....right ?

None of this matters, we can debate until the cows come home, its the current climate of white male rage as tho they are now the victims. Trump, the multi millionaire born with a gold spoon in his mouth, is the victim, and by proxy all white males are now being discriminated against because we actaully acknowledge others.

This is a YOU problem, not a WE problem.

The ultimate irony is the millionaire white male now claiming THEY are the victims


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You are. You’re missing your extra absorbent towel to mop up tears and a point. You don’t think that it’s noteworthy to point out someone’s accomplishments when they’re not a white man?