Atheism and Genocide

I did say purportedly for a reason. I wouldn't recognize that speech in German if I saw it. I don't speak German. I'm not making the demand he definitely said it or imposing my view on what any of it might mean. I found the quote for you because you had said you had never seen Hitler mention Jesus anywhere. What you do with that snippet of speech is up to you. I really don't have a dog in this race other than extending what I considered a courtesy at the time.

Maybe that's a sincere request for an answer but I doubt it, and why I doubt it is that (1) I never claimed or acted as if I hated anyone, Christian or otherwise, (2) I can't speak for this mass of people you classify as that group, and (3) I have no idea why you would have the assumption that no Christian could have possibly ever done something bad to me.

I'm sorry but I don't have an answer for your unanswerable question.

Nice to meet you though.

Take care.

 

I will find the answer one day ...

http://youtu.be/Ti3EWCbtZGk

 

What a bunch of BULL!

How am I brainwashed, or brainwashing, stating facts = rebutting you?

How am I misusing the victims of the Holocaust?

I have made no argument - you did - I showed that Hitler called himself a Christian - and even used that as an excuse to murder the Jews.

The pope made a pact with the Nazi and I have photos of priests with arm raised in salute to Hitler.

I started my rebuttal to YOUR post with the fact that Christians under Hitler had bloody hands.

 

Here's a few quotes in your own language from Hitler on God and Christianity: Link

 

Do you use any form of drugs?

http://youtu.be/QYtIcg6-Rgw

 

Sorry to say this, but I'm really not able to take your propaganda serios.

 

Let me say it in this way: I know very well what to take serios and what not to take serios in case of Adolf Schicklgruber. And the last person I take serios in case of Hitler is Hitler. That's why I used not a public comment of Hitler. It's really more than only idiotic to try to see in Hitler a pius christian man. The SS and high Nazi leaders never married in a church with a priest for example. And it were not bishops who visited continously his headquarters.

http://youtu.be/JD4F8i_u1uY

 

Well, Herr Hitler certainly took himself and his project seriously and that suffices for most people, I guess, to correlate his ideas with his actions.

Anyhow, you said you only wanted to read Hitler in German so I merely provided you with the obvious. That's all.

 

Why do you use the german word "Herr" instead of "Mr." in this context?

So you are thinking Hitler had something like a feeling of self-identity and you are thinking he had something like a project.

Okay - Hitler causes only a feeling of compassion for him in me - that's maybe something what the most people don't feel if they think about Hitler. I guess he was not even worth the death of only one member of my famliy - and he caused the death of millions of people and wasted an uncountable number of lifes including my own life.

In German language I need only some parts of a seconds to read his texts and I know exactly what I have to think about this bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

http://youtu.be/61PL3KJFPss

 

What are showing this pictures?

http://youtu.be/_t5bhwWzW8U

 

Like I said, the Pope made a pact with Hitler.

And priests saluted him.

And I have the pictures.

You called what I wrote propaganda.

Hitler did claim to be Christian - there are tons of his historical quotes out there, and lots of photos of him with the clergy.

I'm not sure what you think I'm trying to do here - but I'm just stating facts.

I believe you said you were German?

I'm German and Swedish.

 

Please - don't tell me you are an idiot. If you are a really a Swede then perhaps you should ask yourselve why Swedes murdered such an unbelievable high number of Germans in their religious motivated wars against the catholic church in the 30 years war.

Whatever: Everyone who is well informed about the history of the third empire knows that the Nazs tried to create aryan "german christians" with stories like 'Jesus Christ was an aryan son of german soldiers in the roman army' and other bull(*)(*)(*)(*). For sure Hitler also spoke with people and for sure the people in his days used expressions like "Heil Hitler" instead of "Grüß Gott" or greeted in the so called "german greeting". As far as I know Hitler stole this "german greeting" from Red Indians as he also had stolen the swastika from other cultures. He used and misused everything.

Your absurde idea of a "pact between the holy and the devil" shows only that you are hating the christian religion without knowing why. The catholic church for example is not denying that wrong ideas about Jews in history caused very heavy problems also under Hitler. But you are only a brainwashed brainwasher - using for example pictures without knowing what this pictures are showing. Who were this men? What was the reason for this pictures? Date, positions, reasons ... you are knowing less than nothing very loud, that's all.

http://youtu.be/jc69urKmaqQ

 

This picture looks like they are giving a blessing, not saluting Hitler. I've made that gesture myself in church with he rest of the congregation praying over an individual. I certainly wasn't saluting Hitler.

 

I don't think that only one of this men in both pictures shows really a priest of the catholic church. Don't forget please that the third empire lived also because of inscenations without any reality. Can also be that this people feeled an existential pressure. No one knows anything aboit their motivation and what they really did. Without knowing concrete names and facts such a picture says nothing.

But you are right - sometimes people are "manipulating" - see for example this picture from June/29/1951:



and



I don't know why some people are doing such a bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

http://youtu.be/WnZyvKQgNYI

 

True.

And that really is my point--it could be almost anything--including a salute, but again, your point to what motivates and what is in their hearts is valid as well.

 

Most germans were catholic. That is why is was so easy for the nazi's to blame the jews....Because the averge german was raised to hate and despise jews for the death of jesus.

This is also the reason why I don't see the point in blaiming all Muslims for the actions of Muslims fanatics.....Since no one blames all Christians for the actions of the Nazi's

 

¿ Whatelse to say than: "Nice weather on Arcturus IV?" ?

I'm not sure wether not everyone is responsible for everyone in the eyes of the Lord.

http://youtu.be/jwStDK2_qpw

 

LOL! You two are hilarious!

This is history - not something I made up - GEEEEZZZ! Get a clue!

Photos - http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

Note the photo of the signing of the pact between the Nazi and the Vatican.

Note the other photos showing clergy (with solders) raising their arms in the NAZI salute to Hitler.

http://alamoministries.com/content/english/Antichrist/nazigallery/photogallery.html

http://nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

http://emperors-clothes.com/vatican/cpix.htm

http://nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

PHOTOS, PHOTOS, and more PHOTOS, and info.

 

I'm not the idiot.

I'm not the one denying historical facts - like the pact between the vatican and the Nazi, or all the Christian quotes from Hitler.

None of which is here or there - as we have historical documents showing he was raised Christian, called himself a Christian, made a pact with the Vatican, etc.

That is PURE BULL - as I am stating HISTORY! FACTS! A photo of this is in my post above with all the links - and from that info you can do a historical search and prove it for yourself!!!

LOL! You just dig yourself in deeper and deeper!

See my post above with all the links.

And I am getting tired of you calling me brainwashed, or brainwasher, etc, for stating nothing but KNOWN HISTORICAL FACTS!

 

Nice from you to hear that you are defending my dead jewish ancestors in the concentration camps of the Nazis against me, so that you have the right now to be tired, hero. Or can it be the reality simulator between your eyes has a little hole?

http://youtu.be/0_9BTHcpssM

 

Not trustworthy. Completly crazy interpretations - confusing textes - wrong facts. In the end everyone who tries to understand this confusion knows afterwards less than nothing. Hitler and Stalin - I call them sometimes the right and left jawbone of the devil - would be proud on you.

http://youtu.be/UyVg5dG5Hh8

 

You know, Inledsva, even Wikipedia understands the way churches were in a bad situation when Hitler was in power.

Certainly, some people were swept up in the Nationalism, but the Vatican never approved, and attempted to work through diplomacy to mitigate the damages of totalitarianism.

 

Wikipedia doesn't entirely agree with you, especially on the 'Vatican never approving'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskonkordat

Clearly the Pope was interested in protecting the branches of the church in Germany at that time; and he(and quite a few middle men) made a deal with a devil to do that.

 

Making a "deal with the devil" is not "approving." It is keeping the Church in place so that it can serve its people. The regime shat all over it almost immediately (which is what you would expect from a "devil").