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Yep, no adds. There never are for vaccines. (Apart from government sponsored public health campaigns urging people to get their kids vaccinated. They happen every so often.)

 

It is so strict that they cannot give away free pens or even a cup of coffee

 

Everything has a possible side effect

The question is if it is safer than the alternative

 

Interesting. I honestly can’t tell you what kind of ads run here. I know drug ads are common from what people talk about but I don’t see them except occasionally in print so don’t know if vaccine ads run or not.

 

You are really deep down that rabbit hole eh? I have had both shots - astra Zeneca and I don’t even stick to magnets!

 

Also not a bad idea.

 

I'm vaccinated but why are you so damn intent on blasting those who aren't. We know the vaxxed can still get covid, we know they can still pass covid, we know they can still get sick and hopefully it won't be as bad. So why do you care if someone wants to risk it and not get vaccinated? It's not going to stop covid, it may keep you from getting as sick that's it.

 

It has its downsides - I cannot get ECG rulers for love or money ;p.

But a big big proportion of the inflated cost of US pharmaceuticals is advertising because that cost must be passed on to the consumer. I actually get really pinged off at the ads on the Internet that start with “This weird trick” then state “THEY do not want you to know this” and then say something like “hair loss is caused by hair falling out” like duh! It is a known medical fact. We are going to have to address the misinformation on the internet not only about vaccines but also a whole raft of so called health products

 

Ummm sorry but has all the news on this missed you?
1) the unvaccinated are a reservoir for the increased spread
2) the increased speed can cause mutations
3) the unvaccinated will get sicker longer and with the delta variant that means a younger cohort and THAT will affect your GDP
4) Someone has to pay for the ICU bed use - eventually that will be all of us

Want me to continue?

 

Good, you deserve the vaccine

 

really have you ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE SEVERITY OF THE PERMANENT DAMAGE!

 

well then simply ignore it... no one is forcing you to look at it.

It is not like you who are violating human rights by forcing people to take a vaccine with very serious side effects that can kill you or leave you with disabilities and pain for the rest of your life.

Not only do you take away their ability to take legal action when there are serious complications..... you are also then forcing them to take this debilitating poison.
Massive human rights violation

 

Yep! Now instead of linking to questionable sources I would like you to research for yourself, and you ARE capable of doing so, information that is in valid sources. You are a smart lady. You have just been mislead by misinformation.
If you want we can take this step by step, but I will NOT click on “clickbait” sources such as “odyssee”

Find your point, ie there are magnets in the vaccine, post it and we can discuss what is real and what is QANON twaddle

 

Who is “forcing” people? Has someone marched into your house and held you down? Now take it a step at a time and discuss which specific side effect scares you most

 

More than you would possibly believe

Now step at a time

 

LOL. We have freebies and Amazon.

I still would rather see people be educated on critical thought and on how to take charge of their own health. But that doesn’t seem to be in the plans going forward.

To me it looks like in the US anyway, any outfit regulating misinformation on the internet would just have a monopoly on distribution of their own misinformation. What we get from the CDC and NIH is not misinformation free by any means. Interesting subject.

Another thing about US overconsumption and overpayment for pharmaceuticals is the effect it has on development of new drugs. Several years ago something like 90% of new drugs were developed for the US market. I don’t know if that has changed, but if we did what you do innovation would fall precipitously.

 

Yes but the majority of those were “copycat” drugs, now I will admit what I am about to write I can find little on apart from a documentary that was aired some years back, but it was their contention that a good part of the research was ensuring that the parent company patented all possible variants of the same drug. Let us take the “statins” as an example

https://www.medicinenet.com/statins/article.htm#which_drugs_interact_with_statins
Each one has a slightly different profile and does slightly different things but odds are you local GP will write out a script for the one she/he likes most

Getting the patents on the copycats though slows down the opposition from coming out with a similar drug BUT it also means the more varieties the more advertising and the smaller market share and higher price

Years ago Australia pissed off the pharmacy industry big time. It developed the PBS the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme. If the drug is listed on there the government subsidises the cost BUT this means we have in effect a single payer system and that helps control the cost. Downside - we do not have as many copycat versions of the same drug available as you do.

https://www.nps.org.au/australian-prescriber/articles/assessing-the-statins

 

Can you quantify what percentage of total approvals/submissions are for “copycats” and what percentage are for new molecular entities? I don’t see numbers reported for “copycats”.

I’ve read before how available drugs options under your system are less than in the US. I believe you have a pretty stringent cost/benefit threshold so expensive orphan drugs are rarely approved.

What I don’t understand is if such drugs just aren’t subsidized but are available if you pay out of pocket or with private health insurance or if they plain can’t be prescribed in Australia. Are all options open to non Medicare patients?

 

I think that would be murky as given how difficult it appears to be to get a straight financial answer out of the pharmaceutical industry
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...es-high-cost-research-and-development/585253/

Good article from the Atlantic on this

We have a similar therapeutic goods advice set up to you so drugs can be available to be prescribed that are not on the PBS - you just have to pay full market price. The PBS covers most drugs and reviews what can and cannot be added - obviously there is a finite money pot and approving one drug that might only help 10 people a year may not mean they can approve another that is cheaper but would benefit 500 people a year.

I think most Aussies understand the limitations but it is, we think, better than many alternatives

 

Something is obviously wrong with you

 

Lol I figured you would know it was a joke

 

I expected the FDA would report how many approvals were for new molecular entities and how many were not, but all I can find is the NME numbers.

To be clear I’m not making the argument pharmaceutical companies are pure as the driven snow. I’m not much of a fan anyway, I’d much rather spend money on prevention than cures and treatment of symptoms of disease. I agree there is a lot of underhanded dealing and smoke and mirrors. But I do think we would see less innovation overall without our screwed up system as bad as it is.

Thanks for clarifying the private pay issue. I think that’s the best approach. Give people options. I agree on the cost/benefit analysis. We spend hundreds of thousands a year on some drugs that have barely perceptible benefits. Of course our ridiculous insurance Ponzi scheme makes it possible. Nobody (or very few) would be paying that under your system or as private pay.

 

Melbourne has just gone into another lockdown, clearly they want to get this done before the news below comes out.

he received a $1200 fine for not wearing a mask and asked for proof of a pandemic in court contesting the fine

YUGE!!! CANADIAN COURT VICTORY PROVES COVID-19 IS A HOAX & ALL RESTRICTIONS HAVE NOW BEEN DROPPED
https://www.bitchute.com/video/vPxCSyzpSrk8/

https://dontspeaknews.com/2021/08/04/alberta-canada-ends-all-mandates-thanks-to-patrick-king/

https://mynews.one/breaking-alberta...se-sars-cov-2-doesnt-exist-in-the-real-world/

 

Meanwhile this doco implicate Fauci as being behind the Covid virus...so much for blaming China

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=5f5fe441dc50dc07a1fbe5c1