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That's easy to say when you live in remote locations with limited interaction with other people.
If I lived in a city instead of on a farm I'm sure that I would fear covid a lot more than I do.
I'd like to hope that fear wouldn't lead me to panic but I wouldn't want to judge others.

 

We are more likely to be struck by lightening but we don't let our kids play out in thunderstorms.

Maybe what you define as "panic" is proactive instead waiting to be reactive.

 

I would never want to be anywhere where that idea is considered "flawed."

It's amazing what people can do to rationalize their apathy.

It's even more amazing that so many won't shut up about what a woman can do with her own body to not complete a pregnancy but that life doesn't matter AFTER s/he is born?

 

Yeppers.

 

I define panic as hauling in the military to oppress a population that seems to have the ability to decide on their own the risk vs rewards of maintaining a more normalized life style which includes basic freedoms instead of having that choice robbed from them because "what if"

but hey! I'm sure an increase in violence, drug addiction, depression, divorce, abuse, homelessness, job loss, inflation, suicide and every other negative side effect associated with locking a populace down on a what if seems like a great idea! go for it! What could possibly happen that's bad?

I mean if your medical situation get's broken at 61 hospitalizations in a population of 25 million +...maybe the problem is the medical industry not being adequately equipped?

Anyways. Warm up to covid. It's not going anywhere. So I guess you've chosen perpetual lock down as new variants arise and what ifs run amok. We are likely going to need updated shots yearly now to stay ahead of this thing which means there is always going to be a risk of what if around the corner.

 

Good point, but even city folk have tools to protect themselves they won’t use. I have a hard time sympathizing too much when people won’t take advantage of protections readily available to them. I blame misinformation for the fear mostly. When people are given bad advice on how to protect themselves and see infections spread, fear is a natural consequence.

 

I'm not making that argument. You're goalpost shifting.

 

I guess that's a side effect of being mocked by others for wearing a mask and being labelled as panicking.
Especially bad when it is the President doing it.

 

I assume you are referring to Trump? The president told people to wear masks.



Some people are just not comfortable taking a vaccine that is new. I'm double vacced. But I respect a person's personal choice to decide their own risk vs reward.

 

Eventually.
Not until after he'd mocked Biden for wearing one all the time.

 

Why did Biden need to wear one anyway.

 

To reduce the chance of the virus spreading around his staff and associates like it did around Trump's Whitehouse.

 

We agree on that (what I bolded above).

My choices about COVID, variants and lockdowns have no bearing on the world spinning. It'll keep going.

 

What goalpost shifted?

 

Eventually? Like you mean...JULY 2020? Jesus man. Early on everyone was on the fence about masks. CNN. Biden. Pelosi. Banning flights from China was racist.

As for teasing Biden. I think we both know that Biden wears his mask as a prop, right? Trump was mocking him for wearing a mask while he was 200 feet from everyone, only to immediately take it off. It was a prop we should all have seen through. What did Biden do immediately after winning the white house? He took his mask off and walked around exactly against his own mandates he want's everyone else to follow.

I still don't see the big gains from masks. Especially those cloth masks which are nothing more than placating virtue nonsense. We have never "flattened the curve" by wearing masks. It's only when we go full lock down. So are the masks working? I mean if we are in full ass lock down when nobody can be near anyone else as we are all stuck in our homes. Then sure! Masks work!

Trump was cutting through the virtue bullshit.

Let me guess; democrats mass gathering and celebrating on the streets after Biden won wasn't a super spreader event. But those Trump rallies!? Hooo boy! Covid knows to go after those!

 

See that is where Aussies and Americans part. We do believe death rate is something but the we but then we have not had decades of minimising gun death rates
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You also do not have mass migration bringing guns over your border and chicago style street gangs and thugs turning city blocks into war zones. Do ya?

 

Trump is certainly not blameless, but it was our (still supposedly) top epidemiologist that started the mocking of mask wearers. As expected, it was all downhill after that.

 

And his multiple maskless rallies?
Or this


Or this


Or this

 

How many people was Biden near during all those months in his basement?

 

Actually the gun smuggling is the other way INTO Mexico and the Mexican government has had enough and is suing to stop it

 

He was standing alone on the balcony wasn't he? Was he going to infect the planter? And again, he's mocking Biden for wearing it when he was "200 feet away from everyone" Which is clearly just using it as a prop.

 

It wasn’t mocking it was true though that we had little evidence of their effectiveness even inside of hospitals - it was always believed that a “surgical” mask was only really effective until it became damp with exhaled breath

 

Well that's totally fair actually. We won't see an influx in gun smuggling unless the democrats want to try and shut down gun manufacturing and the 2nd amendment. That's when you will see gun smuggling across the border start to boom.

So great point.

 

That’s a common misperception. The fact is we had all the information needed to recommend masks in early March when Fauci mocked the idea.

This review/analysis contains most of the information we had when he mocked the idea. The only studies not predating his mocking came after he actually changed his position.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext
It should also be noted South Korea etc. made correct decisions at the same time or previous to Fauci making the wrong call. It was not a lack of information.