Beslan school siege: Russia 'failed to prevent' massacre

its true, Nazis build many industries for Koba, and entire Koba´s politburo were germanophiles before 1941. actually we know very little about sovok- nazi cooperation, Muscovite achieves from that period are still closed

 

"USA financed Hitler and participated in the Holocaust." Well, to much celebrations with vodka? or you are really think so?

 

LOL! Did Poland have its horse cavalry massed on the border to invade the USSR?

 

US corporations did business with the Nazi regime after Hitler took power The USSR did far more business with the Nazis.

Please provide a source for your charge that the USG under FDR conspired with Nazi Germany to exterminate the Jews.

 

I don't know about horse cavalry but what they didn't have brains, exactly. If you have no brain then any horse cavalry massed on the border can't help.

 

USSR took technologies from Germany for fight against Germany. USA gave Hitler money and technologies for fight against USSR. You helped Hitler we fought him.

You didn't know that USA blocked any Jew immigration? Excuse me, but what do you know about Holocaust in this case? Look for "The Steamer St. Louis", for example. You fed the Hitler with Jews and now you make Holocaust museums in every American city. Wow!

 

actually, its not funny at all. Putler´s propaganda has adapted Hitler´s fascist narrative , who put responsibility for WW2 on Poland. according them : Poland has stated WW2, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

 

This is a known fact, that General Motors, for example, owned an Opel factory in Germany which produced military staff. Standard Oil had a contract with German chemical firm Farbenindustrie AG for production of fuel for the planes. Many financial giants from the US help Hitler to rise. But indeed US is a free democratic country, so they can do that.

 

Poland still had horse cavalry when Germany crossed the Bug. They were not an aggressive military power.

 

IOW, you do not have a source to support your assertions. Blocking immigration was insensitive but there is no evidence that it was motivated by a desire to exterminate Jews. The Holocaust was a clandestine operation - there was no clear proof that it was happening until Nazi occupied territory was recovered. Certainly not when the St. Louis was turned away. Just as the Soviet mass extermination atrocity in the Katyn was not credibly documented until after the war.

 

not even close how USA helped to mass killer koba - sralin to build his satan - project Sovok
"
How America Helped Build The Soviet Machine
To bring their nation to the leading edge of technology, Soviet leaders are turning to the United States. Their grandfathers did the same thing.

Our usual picture of the Soviet Union and its history is strictly political and economic. We trace the many struggles for leadership power and the ups and downs of the Soviet economy. We chart the rise of Stalin and the battles for party domination that followed him, and we watch Mikhail Gorbachev avow glasnost (political openness) and perestroika (economic restructuring). And we hope that our fundamentally different values in these spheres can increasingly influence the Soviets—just as the Soviet Union believes its own values have long influenced the world.

But beyond politics and national economics, another America has been making a profound impression on Russians for about a century. That is technological America, the developer of the most creative and fecund system of production the world has ever known. Although the idea of America as a moral force has never faded, many foreigners think mainly in terms of inventive, productive America. Witness the thousands of visitors from overseas who headed for the automobile factories of Detroit in the 1920s, the hydroelectric plants of the Tennessee Valley Authority in the 1930s, and Silicon Valley in the 1980s. A fair test of where our greatest national prestige lies would be to ask Mikhail Gorbachev which he would prefer: two weeks in the Cradle of Liberty or three days in Silicon Valley.

V. I. Lenin, Leon Trotsky, and Joseph Stalin all opted for technological America. One of the momentous and almost forgotten chapters of modern history concerns the Bolsheviks’ fierce determination between the two world wars to adopt the industrial legacy of the United States: to re-create the steel mills of Gary, Indiana, behind the Urals; to duplicate Ford’s River Rouge plant in Nizhni Novgorod; to erect a copy of the great dam and generators of Muscle Shoals, Alabama, on the falls of the Dnieper River—all using American methods and American engineers, planners, and managers. Few Americans today can identify Frederick W. Taylor, the father of scientific management, but he and Henry Ford and other modern American industrialists and engineers influenced Soviet history deeply and permanently. For the Bolsheviks in the 1920s, Fordism plus Taylorism equaled Americanism. And Americanism, in that sense, was crucial to the success of the communist state.

Mikhail Gorbachev may know about this chapter of Soviet-American relations; the Soviet press and historians have publicly forgotten it. But in any case Gorbachev seems determined to repeat it. Perestroika without American technical and managerial input is probably no more conceivable to him than was a socialist future without Fordism and Taylorism to Lenin. Likewise, many Americans do not know about one of the most remarkable episodes of technology transfer in history. The American engineers, architects, and industrialists who helped build the productive base of communist Russia swept the record under the rug. Their successors, like Lenin’s, seem poised to do it all over again.

In the 1920s the cream of American firms involved with automobiles, electricity, and workplace management were eager to sell the state of their art—give or take a few years—to the “Reds,” despite powerful anticommunist voices on the right. The Soviets were ready to buy, despite their aversion to capitalism. (They distinguished, as many Americans cannot even today, between America’s history-shaping means of production and our free-enterprise economic superstructure.) The United States had never enjoyed greater worldwide respect—or envy—than after World War I. The Soviets believed that the American system of production could consolidate the Bolshevik Revolution.
"http://www.americanheritage.com/content/how-america-helped-build-soviet-machine?page=show

 

It is funny now to think that anyone would believe that Poland started WW II. It was an absurd fiction in 1939 when the rest of the world knew it was Nazi propaganda. The fact that Russians in 2017 are repeating the propaganda of Hitler's Nazi regime is astonishing.
I blame their engineering schools.

 

do you think its funny to a human to live in Muscovy today? when TV.ru bombs Muscovites with lies to everyday, turning reality into a parade of idiocy , TV.ru blames USA/Israel/Ukraine/Poland for everything: HIV, Nazi in Germany, GULAG, Lenin, s%itt and pee on the walls of the own houses,

this what Obama did to Muscovy

 

From a safe distance human folly often generates laughter. Tears are for the victims, but Russians are famous for their dark sense of humor regarding their plight under the heels of dictator after dictator.

 

Well, my guess Ukrainians did it, from numbers which I saw for 2017, not much laughter left there... The whole project ulus of juchi can Only exists when ol prices over 100$, something what not even Trump can give them.. I can show you the official RosStat numbers , if you want

 

Whenever a nation's political class becomes powerful enough it will undermine the ability of a free economy to create wealth. Russia is becoming the new 'sick man of Europe'.

 

Looks like propaganda.

 

I'd add company IBM.There is the book IBM and the Holocaust. In English.

 

Hmm... Do you really believe what you write? But any case, Poland took part in the aggression against USSR and was doomed.

 

To an extent, agreed.

The russians used to apply a very good option that I support to this day: round up the families of the terrorists, and cut off body parts to show to the terrorists. That was usually successful in getting them to surrender.

 

"We don't negotiate with Terrorists" !

 

do you talk about Putler KGB, kadyrovtsy , etc? who just came to kill Ossetian people?

 

your KP is propaganda too? just well know facts,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Kahn_(architect)

 

it wasa very sick, dying man already in 1991, all its "growth " was just rise of oil prices + optimization of extraction of oil/gas money from oil producers . so oil price 30-50$. is simply death for Muscovy

 

Why I have to do it? You can't argue as Russians do it. All you posts are assertions only without evidence in American style. For example? I wrote about well known Poland-Hitler pact where Poland prepared attack on USSR. Your argument - Poland is not aggressive. Your name is Jane Psaki?

OK. When I'll shoot to your head, I'll say, that I don't desire to exterminate you. Will it help you?

Do you know that there are very serious facts, that Katyn was the Hitler's provocation? Other words, it another fake. But fact, that Poland brutally (very brutally) killed Russians.in concentration camps several times more than were executed in Katyn.