Beslan school siege: Russia 'failed to prevent' massacre

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    I asked you why would I have to do it? When I spend time and publish a source you say nothing or say nonsense. Do you really couldn't find Poland-Hitler pact in Internet? In this case change your Internet.
     
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    And what is BS.g?
     
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    I believe USSR killed Poles in Katyn otherwise it is an epic fail of Putin. But the questions remain. For example, why were Poles killed by German guns with German bullets? Why were their hands bonded with German ropes? Etc, etc, etc. But is this information absent in your textbooks, isn't it?
     
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    How many years ago was that?

    13 correct?

    Why is this in current events?
     
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    What do you mean?
     
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    Why is something that's 13 years old in current events?
     
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    Because Litwin was running low on anti Russian :rant: ranting.

    Duh - uh!
    As if you did not know. ;)
     
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    no, my friend its from
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39586814

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    The only source in your posts to me was "textbooks". Did I miss something on the thread?

    The Hitler/Stalin Pact was a war pact - it was an alliance. Surely you know that. Do you know why that alliance was abandoned?
     
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    Source please.
     
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    i see your point, but we have a geography (history, tradition, ports, sizes, river systems, ethnic groups) , Muscovy is an empire, which much like other empires badly doomed in 20 c, i am not talking about 21c. Algeria in 50-60th for instance 100% similar to Muscovite Northern Caucasus today
     
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    You missed not something. You had missed everything. Like USA. You were lords of Earth. Now you are fat and stupid Americans only. Your food is nasty, your houses are cardboard, your women look like men... Naturally you don't see a difference! And do you know why? You can't get information and change your opinion . You can issue only templates of American propaganda. Your brains are washed....

    As a result I have not plan to open your eyes. I want to improve my English only. By the way, how is my English? It is the only thing that you know better than me :)
     
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    What source??? Didn't you know that Poles had tortured to death 100.000 Russians in Polish concentration camps? Guy... You are something outstanding... Even for an American.
     
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    Source please.
     
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    Your English is mediocre but adequate, but you are very history challenged. I am here to help - with everything. :)
     
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    All nations are inevitably governed by an elite entrenched political class. Absent radical change every political class will eventually sacrifice the interests of any nation and its people to their own class interests. Unless the political class can be replaced or gelded it will eventually doom any nation.

    Marx and Lenin noted the evolution of the nation state toward corrupt wasteful brutal tyranny and blamed capitalism. They were wrong. Human nature is the problem, and it is a very tough problem for human beings to solve.
     
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    If that's what you believe, your language skills aren't the only deficiency you have to address.

    As for your english itself - it could use a lot of work.
     
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    Oh dear, another RT/putin troll in here...the forum was relatively devoid of them for a while - did putin hire a new April class of russian internet trolls to foist on the web?
     
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    What a load of stinking putrid Fecal Matter and BS. There were no Russians liked at Katyn. The people who where killed at Karyn by the Russian NKVD were officers and of the. Polish Army. You noticed thatvI said officers of the Polish Army I did not say Poles even though the majority of the officers of the Polish Army were Poles. Remember that Poland in the inter war years was heavily a multi cultural country and Poland had occupied Halychina - Western Ukraine. The Polish army contained Ukrainian and Jewish minorities. Furthermore Western Ukraine had sizable Polish and Jewish minorities and a good portion of the intellectuals and businessmen killed by the Russian NKVD were Jewish and Ukrainian along with Poles. The Russian NKVD also murdered Ukrainian priests and nuns at Katyn along with Ukrainian inter war nationalists.

    You add all of those groups in with the Poles who were killed at Katyn by the Russian NKVD that does not leave much room for Russians.

    So for anyone to claim that Russians were killed at Katyn is the same as pissing on the graves of all the decent good people who were murdered at Katyn.
     
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    Most of the Slavic countries committed atrocities; anybody who says different is just uniformed or lying. You aren't going to find many demographics of hapless saintly martyrs and victims in eastern European cultures and that goes for Poles, too. I don't have much sympathy for Poles or the Ukraine and Slavic populations; not many Germans, even Nazi supporters could stomach working at the death camps; none of them have any moral authority to be whining about Russians as far as their history goes. It's a case of reaping what you sow; brutal governments generate brutal sociopaths, and in the case of Slavic countries they were successful at creating far more than their shares of savage beasts on two legs, better at it than even the Nazis, who had to recruit many of their death camp guards from the Ukraine and Slavic populations; not many Germans, even Nazi supporters could stomach working at the death camps.
     
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    so you say that only "Ukraine and Slavic populations" worked as the guards in Nazi´s death camps? https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2750293/nazi-ss-guards-auschwitz-concentration-camp/
     
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    Note that it was a Russian government confession. Russian governments have often counted Ukrainians as Russians when they considered it expedient.
     
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    No, I didn't say 'only'. Where do you think I did? At the Operation Reinhardt camps the officers were Nazi Party members but the guards were largely Slavics, and so were the train guards. The Polish police assisted in keeping the Warsaw ghetto and many others sealed off so the Nazis could go in and round them up and either kill them on the spot or put them in the cattle cars. Polish villagers would line the roads and cheer when their Mayors would round up local Jews and march them off to death.
     
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    Don't they have even ONE forum in Russia for these topics? :roll:
     

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