Bible Banned in Utah Elementary School District.

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  1. Colombine

    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Due to its depictions of all kinds of unsavory behaviours, the Bible has been taken off the shelves of elementary and junior high schools in the Davis School District in Utah.

    As in other school districts around the US, concerned parents have asked that the book be removed as a matter of parental choice so that their children might be spared the trauma of coming in to contact with its, often lewd and educationally questionable, content.

    Advocates of parental choice must be thrilled that this title will be kept out of the reach of vulnerable children and will no doubt request its removal in other jurisdictions around the country now that its, often lurid, subject matters have been exposed?

    https://www.ksl.com/article/5065773...ies-junior-highs-due-to-vulgarity-or-violence
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Ridiculous but funny
     
  3. Hey Now

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    Triggered folk are irrational. The outcome described above in the OP is a perfect example of "knee-jerk", if true.
     
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    Curiously, it appears that this story is actually true.

    The playing out of the parents-know-best concept of child education continues apace.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    I’m having trouble reading my screen, due to the tears of laughter…!!
     
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    Satan get behind me!
     
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    You mean it wasn't taken off the shelves decades ago? I'm surprised.
     
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    You shouldn't be. There is no caselaw suggesting that religiously themed books cannot be available in public or school libraries. There is caselaw suggesting an authority figure/educator cannot be organising a 'Bible study'. Its the authority figure lending credibility and stature to its truth that is the problem

    The problem here is one of age appropriateness. Which do you think is less age appropriate forr kids under 12 years of age, My Two Moms or some of the content inside that King James Bible?
     
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    So this is just tit for tat? The Bible is a foundational work of Western Civilization. My Two Moms is not. But go ahead and ban the Bible, it makes good headlines.
     
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    I guess the Leftists can shut up about it, now...lol
     
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    You are asking the wrong question, Mike? So is Measure for Measure by Shakespeare but it still centers on a rape and vengence. It has not occurred to you that a 'foundational work of Western Civilization' might just not be age appropriate for a 10 year old, depending on the subject matter, vocabulary and the way it is covered? If My Two Moms was written with the specific purpose of being age appropriate and the King James version of the Bible was not, maybe you could rewrite that Bible, strip some of the iffy material out and provide an introductory version.
     
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    Seems more like a goose and gander situation, or maybe a case of be careful of what you ask for.
     
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    1) I think redactions of any explicit parts is fair but the Bible is freaking huge. No reason to ban the entirety of it unless you have a political and/or religious bone to pick.

    2) Frankly, if a child is able to read and comprehend something like the Bible then they’re advanced enough to handle the icky bits. This is like the reading equivalent of banning rocket science. But just my opinion, hardly something to base a policy on, so I’d go with #1 here.
     
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    #1 point.
    Redact portions of the Holy Bible??? Damn.
    I have a better idea, as we are talking about library access and/or not being part of a mandatory teaching curriculum in non Christian schools, just leave the book on the shelf and be done with it. Book banning and burning share a bad history and little reality purpose.

    #2 point bolded is spot on.
     
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    How do you ban just parts of a book in a library?
     
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    And it would just make those that chose to read it, that much more curious as to the redacted sections...
     
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    Or.... it could be the LDS getting a pound of flesh from the Christians. It's not really their style, but there is a pretty good population of outliers...
     
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    That’s like asking how do you change music to not audible the swear words. We do this in movies and music all the time. This happens in books too. There are plenty of children’s bibles out there already in fact. Except rather than dumb down 90% of it to turn it into a children’s book you’re just taking out 1% and leaving 99% intact.

    Would think that would be reasonable to people. Guess not?
     
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    No, what would be reasonable is leaving it the library, as with other books. Librarians don't get paid enough to sit there, line by line, and take a black marker to sentences. That makes no ****ing sense. But the religious right brought this on themselves.
     
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    Banning anything is stupid. Cancel culture is out of control on the left and right. Libraries should have the Bible, the satanic Bible, my two moms, the Quran, a selection of pornography, plenty of STEM and history books, Mein Kampf, and whatever else is out there. We should be sending the message that censorship is wrong. If you don’t think they are finding everything they want in the internet anyway, you are crazy. Kids don’t give a **** about libraries. The library is the battleground that moronic parents care about, not students.

    no one ****s a kid up worse then their parents, especially if the parents are righties or leftists.
     
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    the printing press has already been invented buddy. No need to go back hundreds of years and imagine scribes with quills laboriously rewriting documents one at a time just so you have a point. Lol.
     
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    Remind us again which printing presses are creating heavily edited Bibles? . . . especially seeing as Christians are against changing "one jot or tittle."
     
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    Google “children’s bible” and if you can stop laughing at yourself, come back here and tell me all about it
     
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    I had a children's Bible. Most children who grew up Christian did. It isn't redacted. The language is just simpler.
     
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