Biden authorizes Pentagon to deploy 3K reserve troops to Europe in response to Ukraine war

Oh, please, those who died in Ukraine were volunteers, Biden didn't send them there. In fact, Americans are officially discouraged from fighting in Ukraine. Of course, you knew all that, you just had to make a bean-counter comment to deflect from the truth that I posted.

 

Oh no… in fact I wold bet money that if Trump were in they wouldn’t have died because there wouldn’t be a war to die in.

 

Your statements do not represent accurate facts. The U.S. posture in Europe has changed dramatically from temporary presence in Poland to permanent presence in Poland. And you are naïve enough to believe we aren't going to build on that. Dems point fingers at the GOP for wars with total ignorance.

 

Hmmm... who do I believe? Military spokespeople (and common sense) or RIG (Random Internet Guy)??

I'll get back to you, Gene....

 

And I care what you believe...not at all!

 

Biden deploys troops to Europe?

It could be a sign of the changing strategy of NATO. Under the old ways, border nations like Lithuania and Latvia would be sacrificial sheep in the case of a Russian invasion of Western Europe. But, in recent years, NATO has decided to beef up troop deployments in those nations to act as a roadblock to Russia instead of them being total losses.

Also, more troops deployed means more able bodies to accompany or support more covert operations accomplished by the CIA. If you don't think they are all over the place in Ukraine, then I have news for you they are. Foreign intelligence is basically in the mission statement of the CIA.

And, finally, although America should be wary that we could cease to exist by increasing tensions with Russia, we shouldn't allow their BS to control us and rule our lives. They may hold their own citizens hostage without freedom, but we shouldn't allow them to control us because we do have freedom, and we should keep it that way.

 

Exactly so why do it? escalation....Love the new war escalating lefties.

 

Nope.... Biden authorizes the Pentagon to do so, if needed...

Even the NYPost got that part right...

 

“To augment the troops already overseas”?

For what? Why do they need to be augmented?

Are other NATO countries activating and deploying their Reserves?

 

3,000 is not going to escalate anything. People are probably needed for logistics and administration.

 

Read the first bold in Post #19....

 

So why send them?

 

They can make a difference operationally, but not an “escalation”.

I find it incredible that so many Americans are taking a pro-Russia stance on this.

 

Maybe those weapons we've been shipping to Ukraine haven't been as effective as claimed?

Zelensky, Pentagon Acknowledge Counteroffensive Had To Be "Paused" Amid Losses

'Yet more evidence that Western MSM's coverage of war has been skewed & illusory.'

They lie about everything else, why not?

 

He does have a proper understanding of military history, that's why he specifically gave you the example of 'if we were allied to that nation, and did nothing then that would be appeasement.(Munich crisis, the failure at Poland)

It's you, who has a lack of understanding of military history and doesn't understand the concept of appeasement. Not only is Ukraine not formally an ally of the US, much to Ukraine's chagrin it is not a part of NATO either.

Despite its lack of an alliance with the US and even European countries, both have stepped up in their arms production for Ukrainian defense. So this is far from an appeasing situation.

But even at that, the hyperfocus on 'not appeasing' comes from the successful outcome of WWII. That outcome was far from certain in 1939-1941/2 ish. Imagine if that outcome doesn't happen, the allies lose WWII. Then we would say that turning the Polish invasion into a world war was a catastrophic mistake. But obviously in the real world, we're fortunate to come out the winning side.

For me personally, basing a foreign policy off of good luck and fortune does not a sound foreign policy make.

 

Both can be true. They say that it 'doesnt change posture levels', but then why issue the order at all? Clearly, they felt the situation in Poland needed addressing, and that they had to announce it so publicly. Either that, or it's an attempt at sending a message to Russia and they don't intend to actually follow through with that.

But all of this, is a direct result of the Biden Administration's failure in Ukraine. When they noticed the troop buildup, they could have bolstered the Ukrainian borders then if they wanted, to attempt to dissuade the Russians from invading(instead of continually sounding off about it.)

OR, here's a shocker: NATO could've conceded some of the so-called security concessions, if maintaining peace is really the heart of the matter.

The West, as we know did neither. She neither flexed militarily to dissuade Russia, nor did she meaningfully engage in diplomacy to deter Russia.

 

You are right. If Trump had been in power Putin would either be waiting for him to destroy NATO or have already beaten Ukraine because Trump decided not to help the guy who wouldn't dig up dirt on Biden for him.

 

If, if, if.... If Clinton had been president in 2019 I bet Covid wouldn't have happened. See how that works?

But, stick with your make believe world that your life would be paradise if Trump would be eternal leader.

 

Trump said Putin was smart and savvy when he invited ukraine. So forgive me but I think Trump has no authority on these matters.

 

So they can help operationally... you mean, providing for defense and war, but that's not an escalation?

Their operation is in and of itself military based. Of course it's and escalation to bump up troop counts.

 

Providing for additional defense in a non-war situation cannot remotely be seen as an escalation... to sane world leaders, that is...

 

Bumping by 3,000 when there are already over 100,000 in Europe is not an escalation.

 

March 8th, 1965. US moved a meager 3,500 troops to Da Nang.

 

No this is in response to what Putin threatened to use unemployed Wagnar soldiers to invade the borders of Poland and Lithuania. This was an appropriate response.

 

Let us know when the first Americans are in combat.