Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

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  1. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you didn’t. My bad.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FFS, What does that have to do with after they had him in handcuffs ? This was nothing more than murder. Both of those cops should be in prison.
     
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    I would like to know what could justify kneeling on somebody's neck after they have been handcuffed?

    Is there no other physical hold that is available to restrain someone?

    This cop clearly ****ed up. And he may have killed someone.
     
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  4. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Long story short, officer did what he was trained to do, but will be found guilty of manslaughter. Once the threat is eliminated (dude passed out from lack of oxygen), the officer should have gotten off.

    I'm batting about 1,000% regarding these types of situations.

    Who knows? Cop was having a bad day, the suspect spit in his face, no idea what happened before this...

    But even control techniques have limits.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe someday you or your kids will be in that position. Then is it ok ?

    Or is it only OK because he was black ?
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Imagine what conservatives would say if a cop kneeled on somebody's neck for refusing to wear a mask.

    Hmmm...
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, not really. Especially if the dude was on drugs and felt no pain. People in Iraq fought with half their heads blown off after taking PCP.

    Control the head, control the body. That's what we were always taught.

    Which is pretty good information when dealing with a combative drunk or a guy 100 lbs heavier than you.... but on that note, you are SUPPOSED to treat everyone the same because complacency kills.

    Where the gray comes in is what if its an old woman or a child? Well, you are supposed to treat everyone the same, but that's not real life.

    That's why they get paid to make those decisions and you and I don't.
     
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    literally quit reading after 2nd word in the title. Race-baiting blather.
     
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    But at some point being a f'n human being comes into play. The officer stayed on his neck AFTER he passed out from a lack of oxygen. He calmly stayed on his neck even when they called for medical help. The other officer talking to the crowd is an accomplice to murder for doing nothing.

    Training is one thing, but being a human f'n being is another. If they have 2 police officers, and they cant handle 1 handcuffed suspect, then they should not be officers.

    We apparently learned nothing from Eric Garner
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats why he was on the ground, in that position.

    The officers even said they tried to place him in the car but he refused.

    So, it has a lot to do with it.
     
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    If this guy was a anti-shutdown protester, we would be hearing a slightly different tune from conservatives
     
  12. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I agree. The officer did as he was trained until the suspect stopped moving.

    That's why he'll get manslaughter.

    But to the bolded point, I'd say you have no idea what the **** you're talking about.
     
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    or after they pass out from what your doing, then you should probably use some of that grey matter......
     
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    Why not murder.

    All due respect, but isnt it common sense that after he passed out to remove the pressure ?
     
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    Or not. Unless, of course, you want to redefine the legal code to fit your agenda.
     
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    He resisted arrest. And when you resist arrest you deserve to die.

    ;)
     
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    The race card was played two words into the title. But shockingly, the biggest race baiter in internet history, takes umbrage.
     
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    Guess what, this is what officers do when the suspect pointlessly resists.
     
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    BS. Why cant 2 officers handle one already handcuffed suspect ?
     
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    Murder has to prove intent or malice.

    If the officer knew this guy beforehand (likely considering most officers arrest the same people over and over again) and had a grudge, maybe murder.

    I dont think he intended to kill the guy, but it happened, and it is what it is. Thousands of people every year get put through the same treatment and they're just fine.
     
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    Something tells me that if this had happened to me, I as a white person would not have been killed.
     
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    shocking that the most pathetic cop hater in board history has an opinion on this.
     
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    Anybody who watched COPS back in the day will tell you the 'neck kneel' isn't just a thing reserved for blacks. Plenty of rednecks have experienced the patella massage of the cervical spine. Cops kneeling on red necks was a regular feature of that show.

    It always makes me cringe when I see it. That's not something cops should be doing to human beings of any color.
     
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    You try being a cop and figure out a way to deal with someone who is struggling and resisting.

    It's not so simple as your simple mind imagines.


    Plus, let's not forget the man was probably high on drugs... (a familiar story in these situations, it seems like)
     
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