Boy Scout leader arrested for; guess what to little boys?

I love working with children. I am especially interested in working with those who have no one in their lives. It's part of who I am, but I NEVER put myself in a position to be alone with them, male or female.

So, that is the "look out" factor , like you say some people just like working with kids, but those who seek to be alone with them and stuff, watch out.

 

Absolutely. A couple of years ago in the town where I lived, the soccer coach of a girls team was accused of molestation by one of the girls. In the end it turned out that the story was made up. But in this small town the guy was finished, because he had put himself in the position.

 

I was a scout leader but didn't (and still don't) have any children of my own so I consider that quite a serious accusation you're making there.

The same reasons anyone else would (not that any leader should be anywhere with children alone and unsupervised). Why do teachers want to spend all day with them? Why do youth sports coaches want to spend hours in a muddy field with them? Why do adoptive or foster parents want to bring them in to their home? Scouting can offer loads of benefits to kids and the organisation needs volunteer leaders to help make that happen. That's why most people volunteer to be scout leaders. Whether they're straight or gay, have kids of their own or not really isn't a factor.

Obviously such organisations can be misused by those with ulterior motives (just as things like teaching and fostering can) but they're thankfully a tiny minority. Condemning a vast swathe of perfectly innocent people on that basis is indefensible.

 

Why are you hanging around with little kids?

 

While this statement is not true it is also bigoted on its face.

 

If parents did not want their little boys to be at the mercy of homosexual leaders, they (parents) would pull them out of the Boy Scouts. But since the Scouts have endorsed gay leaders, it now has more members than ever before -- and growing fast.

This means that parents and kids don't care.

Share the love, it's all a part of the big American socialist family!

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=286192&highlight=gay+scout

 

Amazing how frequently the real world is the opposite of the world they have imagined.

 

Theyre either idiots, liars, or child rapists.... No matter which, Im equally disgusted.

 

it depends on the statistic and here is a way that you can't spin out of and say that pedophiles are neither homo or hetero

1 million of all pedophile cases committed every year are committed from the pool of 8 million adult homosexuals

2 million of all pedophile cases are committed from the pool of 220 million adult heterosexuals

 

My best friend is a therapist. She worked in group homes for kids that suffered horrible abuse for the first 7 years of her career. She realized that for every kid she helps, scores of others are created by the same abuser. They don't ever stop... so she changed the focus of her career... to work with abusers. Stopping them saves many more children than one at a time therapy. So she began working with molesters, rapists and murderers. Adult molesters are broken. You cannot fix them. So she works in a maximum security facility with kids (up to 17) who have been convicted of adult crimes. Some of them can be fixed.

MOST molesters were themselves molested. Most people know that.
MOST molestation of children happens by kids themselves. Most people don't know that.

So... when Uncle so-n-so takes a boy cross country, raping and murdering children, and that child is convicted for his part... they end up with her.

She will tell you that the death penalty for adult molesters is not meant to deter compulsive behavior... that is just contrary to the nature of compulsion... the death penalty is to stop the molester from creating those dozens more victims. That is how you stop it. Kill them.

 

I wasn't "hanging around with little kids", I was helping run a youth organisation. I did that because I believe that organisation (and many like it) offered significant advantages to the members upbringing and education helping make them all-round better people. It had done so when I was younger and I had the opportunity to give something back. Much of the work I did for Scouting didn't actually directly involve working with kids anyway (maintenance at a district camp site and administrative support).

 

What does that prove again?

Pedophiles are attracted to CHILDREN. The sex of the child is IRRELEVANT to them. They merely choose the easiest target. Now, MEN are more likely to be pedophiles them women and thus since men find boys to be easier targets than girls, well boys are more often molested by pedophiles than girls .

None of this says that pedophiles can't and don't participate in sex with people other than children , they do, but that is independent of their pedophile attraction to children.

There is NO correlation between gay and pedophile.

 

the numbers say otherwise. They are simply numbers, why does that upset you. All the numbers reveal is there is a proclivity among homosexual males to also be pedophiles. The ratio is 1:8 vs 1:110 for heterosexuals

They are only numbers. You can accept the numbers like rational folk or rail against them because they do not make the 3.4%ers appear very favorable

 

... Or otherwise remove them from society on a permanent basis, then, right? Why execution rather than some form of life imprisonment?

 

LOL who's numbers? How did they come up with those numbers?

SEC, you know as well as I do that numbers can be made to say anything if a person is dishonest with the data.

 

Absolutely, unequivocally incorrect. Those who identify as gay are no more likely to molest kids than those who identify as straight.

We know "heterosexual" men who molest kids have a higher preference for boys than the percentage of gay people in society, but if you were placing extra scrutiny on self-identified homosexuals you would NOT catch more pedophiles - you would catch less.

This incident demonstrates that a ban on homosexuals is ineffective. Sandusky, a "heterosexual" married to a woman would have been ok'ed to go on unsupervised camping trips with young boys under that ridiculous, unworkable policy.

And besides that, countries that have no ban on openly gay leaders do NOT have statistically higher rates of molestation/child rape. That's because a pedophile will always find a way to access children... Banning gays is a scapegoat that gives people a false sense of security while making gay parents/adults look like second class citizens, nothing more.

If you people were truly concerned about the boys welfare you would ban men entirely and have only adult females coaching them. Women are FAR less likely to abuse children statistically.

 

Cheaper... and because I am heartless when it comes to such.

 

I'm not much for the death penalty, but (*)(*)(*)(*) a pedophile. If they are absolutely guilty , hang them .

 

Cheaper is probably the better argument here We may hate a given crime with a passion, but does that give us the right to kill the perpetrator? It's a sticky situation.

 

Yes, even though I'm somewhat opposed to the death penalty I believe that in some cases when the guilt is not in doubt and the crime is as heinous as sexually assaulting a child the death penalty is appropriate.

Jerry Sandusky should already be taking a dirt nap. There is no doubt that he is a monster. As an example.

 

I know how you feel. It's easy to hate and want to destroy those who do something like that.

 

It's not hate. I don't hate Sandusky. I just feel that his crimes are so heinous that he ought pay the ultimate penalty.

Let's be frank here, what he did is tantamount to murder, those children will never be the same.

 

they are only in the minds of the whacky far right- who see ebil leftys everywhere......

 

Yeah- why does that whole Big Brother program exist at all?

I mean why would any male want to be around little kids except to molest them..........seriously is this the way people think? Is this an exclusively whacky far right fringe view or is this mainstream right think?