Can Muslims Ever Be Trusted ? (asked of non-Muslims)

Nope, I don't, they can say what they wish - as can I

 

1. Islam is not a religion. It is a heinous, vile ideology, using religion as a mask to cover up its numerous evils.

2. In the entire OP which you quoted, I didn't say I distrusted Muslims. I laid out the case, from past experiences, as to how there could be grounds for mistrust.

3. This is not about individuals. This is about the group, centered around the ideology based on the Koran.

 

Are you insinuating I would like to see this poor woman murdered by these sick barbaric ignorant zealots?

You are a sick puppy.

 

No you don't.

 

Interesting way of saying you don't trust them. Check. You're among the majority of Americans, who feel, with good reason, this country is not the place for them.

 

In other words, those who fall prey to the Muslim Brotherhood brainwashing/propaganda machine network (CAIR, ISNA, MSA, MAS, MPAC, ICNA, etc) are the fools who go around trusting these Stealth Jihadists. In most cases, that's probably true, but you have other elements of society who are knowledgeable about the Brotherhood's program, and they still support these fiends for a variety of reasons (votes, cowardice, conformity, etc).

 

That you do not consider what you write as an abuse of free speech does not surprise me in the least. After all, you are American.

 

That every Muslim is considered to be the same by Americans when every American is not considered to be the same by Americans, is somewhat perverse.

 

I don't think you understand what free speech is.

 

So was this woman killed or not? The video doesn't clarify this.

 

Of course I don't. Why don't you educate me.

 

It could also mean they just haven't put together all the ingredients to pull off such a massive undertaking, but are patiently working on it. Violent jihadists do have a lot of patience. One could have said in 2009, that a Muslim violent attack killing a dozen or more people "hasn't happened" since 9/11. Then on November 5, 2009, Major Nidal Hasan slaughtered 13 US soldiers in Fort Hood, TX, and badly injured 29 others. You say it hasn't happened, until it happens. Good info on this is in the book The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams.

 

Then you are in agreement with this > http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-islam-banned-usa-asked-us-citizens-only.html

 

Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak freely without censorship. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.

- rather simple concept

 

Whatever. If the shoe fits (the "perverse" Koran), wear it.

 

Yes I am.
Islam is not a cultural or ethnic characteristic.
It is an organization that professes to be religious yet a substantial number of practitioners publicly advocate, support and engage in violence and terrorism.

A silent majority (imho) support these agenda's by their lack of coordinated condemnation and dissasociation with these international criminals.

 

would you please be kind enough to avoid parts with where Koran OKs and say simply: as we somewhere read that Koran OKs.
As for part with slaves, what can you say for sects Americas wide and see what real kidnapping is and yeah .... cut the pathetic crap about Koran parts?I can also start speaking about Bible the same way as you for reading only some parts of it that seemed pretty much scary

 

It looks like you were believing in lots of fairytale related to ghosts,dwarfs and such souls of night that parent say to scare his kid and make him go sleep on time?

 

Except when you use it as an abuse of free speech.

Obviously not simple to you.

 

There are new reports of violence my Muslims at least weekly.
If you deny this you must be the one with your head in the sand who believes in the tooth fairy.

 

There is undoubtedly a minority of violent Islamists who are a major problem. This was about Muslims in general though. If all or even most Muslims were seeking control or destruction, they could easily achieve it - they wouldn't need to wait or plan.

This fact suggests that most Muslims (just like most other people) have no desire to commit such violent acts. They may well prefer if society and laws were closer to their personal beliefs and philosophy but that's true of pretty much everybody.

Bottom line is that the average Muslim has much more in common with the average non-Muslim than many people posting here would like to imagine.

 

You can trust that ANYONE won't rape a woman? where do you live pal -.- what's the rate of family abuse in your country,where man beats his wife and children? are they all Muslims? Is it correct to say that religion actually defines someone's behavior?

ok red light, you speak with no evidence and competence on that. what are you trying to do actually? I mean that's even evaluation of oldfashioned myth of Muhammad being rapist of pre pubercity girl --> European society in same era was different on that issue?! ,

bla bla bla bla .... nice story based on slander and weird conspiracy theories available internet-wide.

can you speak Arabic? Can you find an Arab whose mother tongue is both Arabic and English to find that verse and translate it ? That article is clueless article based on one verse,that is btw roughly translated and with all do respect-if you're not willing to find the original-why are you even discussing it?

 

10/24/2011 17:07
PAKISTAN
Asia Bibi prays for freedom but judges are hostage of fundamentalists
by Jibran Khan
Ashiq Masih saw his wife in prison. She is frail but “high in spirit”. Prison guard is suspended for having “hot words” with Asia Bibi as prison security is tightened. The family continues to hope for her release, but judges are threatened by Muslim extremists. Pakistan mourns the death of Begum Nusrat Bhutto.

Lahore (AsiaNews) – Asia Bibi continues to pray in death row. She still hopest she might be released soon and return to her family, her husband Ashiq Masih told AsiaNews. The 45-year-old mother of five was sentenced to death for blasphemy and is in jail waiting for her appeal to be heard. She “is weak and frail, but is high in spirit,” he added. She has a new guard because the one in place was “suspended” after she “had a few hot words with” his wife “over a minor issue.”

In recent weeks, the Pakistani press had reported that some of the guards had “tortured” her, an allegation her husband was quick to put to rest. In fact, Asia has been in isolation for the past few months in Sheikhupura prison (Punjab). In order to prevent any possible attack against her, prison officials have tightened security measures around the Christian woman. Islamic fundamentalists have in fact called for death and offered a reward for her murder.

As Ashiq Masih noted, she “is weak and frail” but “high in spirit” and has “been provided extra security” because “the situation is tense”. In light of this, “She is praying for all the people who are praying for her,” her husband said. Unfortunately, “the judicial system is becoming a hostage in the hands of the extremists."

For instance, Judge Pervez Ali Shah, of the Anti-Terror Tribunal in Rawalpindi, was removed from his post after he announced the death sentence against Mumtaz Qadri, the security guard who murdered Punjab Governor Salman Taseer because he had defended Asia Bibi.

“We are praying and fasting for our mother so that she can be with us,” said Alishba Bibi, one of Asia’s children. “Each time I meet her, I can’t hold my tears. My mother tries to hold my hand through the gaps in the grilled window and says, ‘Have faith in the Lord. He will bring me home one day’. Every time I hear these words, I cry to the Lord to bring my mother back so that we can be with her again”.

Asia’s youngest daughter laments the situation. “I have not met my mother. I am scared.” She remembers seeing her “only in pictures” and of being unable to “control my tears”.

“There are times that I even lose all hope to see her ever again. I want to keep the memories of her, smiling and playing with us,” she added.

The family continues to live in hiding in a safe place because they too have been threatened by Islamic fundamentalists.

Meanwhile, another woman who has marked the recent history of Pakistan has passed away. Begum Nusrat Bhutto, 82, wife of former Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, mother of Benazir and mother-in-law of the current president, Asif Ali Zardari, died yesterday afternoon in Dubai.

The authorities have announced a public holiday to mark her death. The Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) has proclaimed ten days of official mourning.

Of her four children, only the youngest daughter is still alive because she has never been interested in politics.

"The Bhutto narrative is beyond history. It belongs to the realm of legends,” the Prime Minister`s Secretariat said in an official statement. “The nation is once more united in their collective grief for a family whose sacrifices remain unparalleled in our lives.”

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03/17/2011 PAKISTAN

Wrong that she is in jail but obviously this woman has not been "murdered" as the title of the video claims.

 

just like anywhere on a planet and you call it Muslim? nice what's the sand over there like, I advise you to take care of your pulmonary system,sand makes it go bad-saw it on other's example

 

You make no sense.
Is English your second language?

I think I make pretty clear and succinct statements.
If you mis-interpret them I think that says more about you than me.