Civil War in Egypt Erupts!

You've got that backwards, but don't take my word for it:

http://www.ikhwanonline.com/

http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2013/...ed-media-and-islamists-during-the-revolution/

As far as I know, there is no such thing as the US Muslim Brotherhood. The closest thing you'll come to such an organization are the legacy groups (MAS, CAIR, et al) that the Ikhwan's members established here in America.

 

Apparently you know very little about the US Muslim Brotherhood. It is called the Ikhwan, as stated in the Muslim Brotherhood US primary document, its infamous Explanatory Memorandum (don't tell me you don't know about the EM)

Stealth Jihad is THE method of operation of the Muslim Brotherhood as was revealed in the Brotherhood's 1991 Explanatory Memorandum...for North America, discovered by the FBI in 2005, and declassified in the Holy Land Foundation, Hamas terrorist funding trial in 2007 & 2008.

The key words from it are :

"The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. 7 (21).

If anybody would be lame enough to try to refute this, the US Justice Dept. is the source of the information, and they will back it up. So will the 5 or 6 Muslim Brotherhood leaders convicted in the trial, and now rotting in prison, for the rest of their lives.

Here's a partial list of Ikhwan organizations: Muslim Brotherhood front groups in America

CAIR, ISNA, MAS, MSA, ICNA, FCNA, MAYA, AEF, UASR, IAP, BMI, IIIT, IMANA, AMSE, ICNA, Islamic Institute, AMC, AMF, Success Foundation, GSISS AKA Cordoba University, NAIF, IIFTIKHAR, AMSS, TIAA, IRO, African Muslim Agency, Safa Trust, SAAR Foundation, MMCT, Dar El-Eiman USA, ADAMS, IANA, GRF, MWL, MYNA, HHT, Islamic Academy of Florida, Fairfax Institute, AMT, IIFSO, AMCE, AMAFVAC, CISNA, Isalmic Media Foundation, et al

Suggested reading:

1. They Must Be Stopped by Brigitte Gabriel

2. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) by Robert Spencer

3. Stealth Jihad by Robert Spencer

4. Infiltration by Paul Sperry

5. The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams

6. Sharia: the Threat to America by the Center for Security Policy

7. The Third Jihad (DVD) by Dr. Zuddhi Jasser

8. Muslim Mafia by P.David Gaubatz & Paul Sperry

 

Actually, I know quite a bit about Hasan al-Banna's outfit and its legacy groups in the U.S. and I read the Explanatory Memorandum years ago. Thanks for all the info, but it's old news to me.

If you haven't read it already, I would recommend Lorenzo Vidino's The New Muslim Brotherhood in the West, which was published in 2010.

http://www.amazon.com/Brotherhood-Columbia-Studies-Terrorism-Irregular/dp/0231151268


Barry Rubin also wrote a good book about the Ikhwan in 2010, The Muslim Brotherhood: The Organization and Policies of a Global Islamist Movement, which discusses the Ikhwan's various organizations throughout the Middle East and the West, and the price has come down considerably since I bought it. It's quite short, but informative.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Muslim-Brotherhood-Organization-Policies/dp/0230100716

 

Again, the "Ikhwan" is the Muslim Brotherhood (the front groups) in North America, as stated in the Explanatory Memorandum. Are you not getting this somehow ? Maybe we'll have to agree to disagree. Whatever.

PS - I didn't bold print the words [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] in the Explanatory Memorandum, because the forum might delete the post for altering a quotation.

 

"Muslim Brotherhood" is English for al-ikhwan al-muslimun - you should already know this. Ikhwan is just shorthand.

Notice how the Arabic language website is not MuslimBrotherhood.com:
http://www.ikhwanonline.com/

Essentially, they're all the same organization with the same agenda - I'm sure you're already aware of this, too. The only difference is one of language (English vs. Arabic).

 

If we withdrew support for Israel they probably wouldn't "like" us anyway. Too much recent baggage that we caused for that. But they'd have no reason to attack us after that.

Some would have you believe radical anti western Muslims hate the US because we're Chrsitians, and this is pure horse hockey

 

Pop THE QUIZ on him.

 

Wha?.....did you really just say that?.....

The state of Israel was formed after WWII under UN resolution 181, http://www.trumanlibrary.org/israel/unres181.htm

Wait...you're not going to try and tell me that Hezzbolah existed before 1960, or Al Quada existed before 1990 are you?...please don't do that

 

What USA should do:

Dear World:
If we do not agree with your government and/or your constitution we may elect not to do business with you. We may also elect not to do business with countries that do business with you. If any of your citizens try to sneak into our country, we will send them back at your cost. If you do not pay, we reserve the right to confiscate gold and currency from any bank you do business with irrespective of where that bank exists on this planet. If we feel you are selling arms to our enemies, we will view that as an act of war and reserve the right to attack you. In order to limit our impact on global weather, we will now create 10,000 neutron bombs. If we are at war with people of a country we will terminate all life in strategic locations within that country with neutron bombs. You are welcome to re-inhabit that part of the country in 24 hours and put in a better group of politicians and a better constitution. You can view ours online if you can't think up one of your own. If we had a USA base in your country we will be pulling out immediately - protect yourselves. We no longer want involvement in any alliances or legions that fight wars not involving USA. UN has 24 hours to get out of USA. Any USA invention or idea that has been reverse engineered and stolen will be considered an act of war, and we reserve the right to fine you or attack you. We prefer you just pay us back, but we are fine with taking over your gold reserves, diamond mines, silver mines, oil fields, etc.
Sincerely - the USA.

 

Thanks to Snappo for his Pharisee dream for what was supposed to be the New Jerusalem where the nations learn the ways of peace, security and prosperity.

 

Obviously....they seem to hate other Muslims even more than Christians.

 

Oh Christ on a cracker protectionist!....not that retarded NON quiz again.

Pleeeze.....it's just a list of names you want people google that will direct them to those crazy anti Muslim sites you love.

Don't fall for it

 

I think USA gives Israel about 3 billion a year. There are 6.7 million Jews in USA, about 2.1% of the USA population. That means if each Jew sends $448 after-tax dollars a year to Israel, it is an absolute break-even. I cannot speak for all Jews, but for me that means I have to take exactly 2 days per year of the interest my USA investments make and send it to Israel (or about 2 hours per year of my salary). 14 days actually, since I will pay for myself, my wife, and all of my adult children. The other 351 days of interest can continue to roll into the USAA funds I own. So yeah - I am absolutely 100% down with not giving USA any taxpayer money. And correct me if I am wrong, but by not sending money to ANY other countries (including muzzie countries like Egypt and Jordan) won't my taxes go down more than 450 bucks a year?

 

I don't really think they hate anyone more than most other groups of humans hate anyone else.

They're just frustrated, and in the age of twitter and you tube we're just seeing almost all the camera worthy stuff in real time, and sometimes it hurts our heads

 

Ummm..yeah.....I'm all for bringing the money back home, and our foreign troops too.

The end of WWII was almost 70 years ago. It's time for the rest to sink or swim on their own.

 

Exactly. Sadly, Washington really gets a hard on about giving cash to countries just to pull strings and make them dance like little puppets for their money. You would thing adults had something better to do with their time.

 

When true Jew hating neo-Nazi's know the secret!

 

Islam has been waging unrelenting war since the genocidal maniac Mohammad has a schizophrenic episode and thought he talked to god herself, dar al-Islam is in perpetual with dar al-Harb it is one of the central tenants of the moon worshipping faith.

 

That's nice.

 

I did not invent the words or concepts of dar al-Harb and dar al-Islam, for that you have to thank the Ummah.

 

Call it what you wish. For 12 years, I've read 25 books on Islamization, and every author of them (and their sources) refers to the Ikhwan was Muslim Brotherhood in America, as does the Explanatory Memorandum itself (as I posted here). A bit late for all that to be changed now, by whatever means.

 

Misery loves company.

 

I have mixed emotions about this. On one hand Egypt did elect him in free elections. On the other hand he is supported by the Muslim Brotherhood that has been associated with terrorist activities and organization and recieves money from Iran who also supports terror. Morsi sought to establish Sharia Law in Egypt that is less law and more social control through the threat of death or maiming that is in direct opposition to liberty and freedom. So I alternately feel that the military was wrong deposeing a duely elected officer, and I feel the military was right deposeing from office a terrorist legitimized by office to install unjust law and use military aid from the United States, that tacitly supports Israel, to threaten Israel and Middle East peace. With that in mind I think the military was right to do what they did. The question then becomes, could they have done this a different way.

 

500 people is a day? That's equivalent to about eight and a half minutes at Antietam.

"Civil War" overstates the situation.

 

You people do know that Muslim nations, and Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates in particular, give Egypt nine times as much money as the United States does, right? Maybe the junta controlling Egypt is ignoring the wishes of the USA because we are a tertiary consideration compared to the desire to crush the Muslim Brotherhood and the need to make their conservative oil-rich Muslim nation backers happy.

http://news.yahoo.com/uae-offers-egypt-3-billion-support-saudis-5-164305772.html