Democratic Party's record on Race >>MOD EDIT<<

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  1. expatriate

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    when someone reposts an identical bandwidth eating videoclip in the same thread... isn't that kinda the definition of "spam"?
     
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    that's more like the definition of propaganda.
     
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    Individuals switching a party doesn't prove anything.
     
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    That's flat out race baiting. I don't see the right using that kind of language or stereotypes ever. I see the left using it and pawning it of as right wing hate speech, but you only here it from your side. To say that conservatives spout off like that is just a poor excuse.
    How many black congresspersons come from predominately white conservative congressional districts? None. Black democrats elected to the house come from gerrymandered congressional districts which are predominately black. Black conservative congressional candidates on the other hand, like Col Alan West and many others, are elected from predominately white congressional districts. White democrats just don't vote for black congressman. So I wouldn't use that as an example if I were you.


    The democrat party is the party of the Klan. The republicans passed anti-Klan laws. The republicans passed anti-lynching laws. The republicans passed civil rights laws. Don't try to pawn off your parties racist history by associating your Klan with our party. The Klan used to lynch republicans, blacks and whites. Bill Clinton gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a long time racist segregationist Sen William Fulbright who voted against the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. President Obama attended the funeral of KKK leader and leader of the United States Senate, Senator Robert Byrd.

    There is such a double standard against republicans. Trent Lott lost his job for suggesting that Sen Thurmond, who ran as a Dixiecrat, would have made a good president.

    I was trying to find Ann Coulter's column about how white democrats have never voted for blacks in predominately white congressional districts. When I find it I will post it too.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Define "helpful"? Is helpful expanding welfare and government dependence or his helpful expanding the workforce and raising incomes and lowering poverty and government dependence?
     
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    people who confuse history with current events probably should switch over to the cartoon network and spare us all the hassle of reading their tripe.
     
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    LoL, race-baiting, eh? I reckon you would know because that is the republican shtick since the 60's. I have posted many, many, many examples of the conservatives here doing just what you said is race-baiting. Funny how it is never responded with facts or proof, just drive-by sniping of insults and ad homs.

    Hell, there is a current thread about calling someone a "baby momma" and wondering why that person is not talking to that person anymore.
     
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    Glock Well-Known Member

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    or at least leave the adult conversations to adults.
     
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    Irony coming from someone whose entire contribution to this forum consists of one paragraph or less racist hollering and race-baiting. Just looked through the last several pages of your posts, and surprise surprise, that's all there was. Do you actually -ever- engage in an "adult conversation" of any substance?
     
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    This is the article I was looking for. I posted it in it's entirety because, hey, Ann Coulter is the best writer in America. Here is her very poignant observation that white democrats NEVER vote for blacks demonstrating liberal hypocrisy and racism of today. Enjoy:

    Black Democrats apparently can get elected to Congress only from majority black districts, whereas black Republicans are always elected from majority white districts: Gary Franks, J.C. Watts, Tim Scott, Allen West and (we hope!) Mia Love.

    How come white liberals won't vote for a black representative? Why can't a black person represent Nita Lowey's district?


     
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    yeah....white democrats never vote for black guys.

    oh wait.... we elected one to be the president.... there's that.
     
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    Well, once I figured out the level of idiocy that most on the right, spew here on a daily basis, I decided to not put too much effort into my replies. Add that to the fact that I just end up repeating my posts anyway to new or different members, there is no need to formulate new responses when the old ones are still unanswered.

    Nice of you to notice, maybe now you can focus on the topic and not me.
     
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    So, don't address the point. Dodge. Name one black democrat elected from a primarily white congressional district.


    Waiting...........
     
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    The guy is a one trick pony, race baiter and troll. This entire thread liberals failed to disprove (or admit to) the democrats racism both current and in history, and the only defense is republicans are the racists now, which is not backed up in fact or at best, rare anecdotal evidence that is unverifiable.
     
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    again... something made black Americans go from voting solidly republican to voting solidly democrat. Do I care what that something was? Not really. It worked in favor of my party. I don't NEED to care about it. If YOU care about it, you should, I would think, first do a little honest reflection and ask yourself if there is anything that YOUR party might have done to cause that mass exodus. If you don't care to engage in such soul searching, that's fine with me. If you are happy with blacks voting overwhelmingly for the other party (MY party), that's fine with me too.
     
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    can you name a black democrat who ran in a primarily white DEMOCRATIC district and lost? I would suggest black democrats losing in white districts that were fairly evenly split between the parties would not exactly help prove YOUR case, any more than a black republican winning over a white democrat in a strongly republican district is all that ground breaking. (how many of those have their been since the end of reconstruction? Four?)
     
  17. Sanskrit

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    Fair enough, "adult conversations" it is then.

    There was a rerun of a "History of the KKK" show on the History channel today. I had it running in the background, but kept my ears open, and never heard the words "Democrat" or "Republican." Since 100% of the first wave of the KKK were in fact Democrats, and 100% of the anti Klan legislation ever introduced was introduced by Republicans, isn't this amazing? Is it any wonder at all with such a complicit media that blacks don't vote Republican?

    Black and white votes began shifting Democrat once the lie narrative of "Democrats are the party of the common man, Republicans are the party of the wealthy," took hold. This went on for 80 years and goes on today. It's only been the last twenty years that there has been any counterview in media, and it remains only on the net and RW news outlets, not mainstream. Is it any wonder the Democrats get lots of black and white votes due to that lie narrative alone?

    Despite the fact that Democrats and their true constituencies are just as wealthy as Republicans?

    Top reason blacks and many lower socioeconomic whites vote Democrat? Great propaganda campaign with no competition for 80+ years. The net is shining light though, and change will come.
     
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    that's because one could not just look at a person and assume they know which party they belonged to. back then there were liberal democrats and conservative democrats, just like there were liberal republicans and conservative republicans.

    the "liberal" members were usually from the north and the "conservative" members were from the south. that's why if you look at the breakdown of the CRA you will see which party voted which way, for and against, the bill. you can also see it broken down by geological area, whereas almost all the yeas were from the north (regardless of party) and all the nays were from the south (regardless of party).

    after the "southern strategy" happened, the party affliation is more defined with all conservatives being in one party and all liberals in the other party. blacks know which party looks after their interest, even if that same party created the kkk. so, unless you want to sit there and tell me that the kkk was filled with liberals, then you are fully aware that liberals have always been on the side of equal rights for everyone, regardless of color and conservatives have always been for keeping the status quo.
     
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    The South used to be majority Democrat, now they are majority Republican, and vice versa for the North, so it wasnt just some "individuals" it was the majority of the country.
     
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    It doesn't matter how many. First of all, you're pointing at individuals and claiming they represent the whole. Secondly, you're assuming a reason behind it without stating your case.

    At this point I expect a citation of some sort by left-wing authors about it was white racists abandoning the Democrats for the GOP and vice versa.
     
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    We see this fallacy every day here. Doesn't fly. Most democrats were progressive, not conservative, esp Klan types, Huey Long, Woodrow Wilson types, poor ignorant union crackers. Trying to paint them conservative due to religion doesn't fly, everyone in the country was much more religious then. Moreover, using the terms liberal and conservative other than in the now is fallacious. Go back a few years, the terms quickly become meaningless, as I've posted many times here before.

    There is no reason at all for any honest show on the History of the KKK to neglect to mention that 100% of the initial membership were Democrats and Republican opposition to the Klan... no reason other than pervasive leftbias in MSM that has been going on forever.

    ...never happened, thoroughly debunked here, no factual evidence of it, lots of real factors caused the switch, have listed them several times, won't do so again because you and yours never address them. You and yours categorically refuse to discuss any racial issues honestly, especially the hoodoovoodoo bigfootdogwhistle Southern Strategy, preferring fallacies like the "conservative Klan" and fabricated dog whistles to facts.

    Since we are on the KKK and reasons blacks vote Democrat, let's add raw intimidation to the list. The Klan killed lots of black people for not voting Democrat. Over time this had a chilling effect on GOP votes in black rural communities. Eventually, as generations passed, they just voted Democrat out of tradition, a tradition started with bodies hanging from trees. And the shocking thing is that Democrats are doing the same thing today. There is a thread on one of the front pages here about a black preacher being attacked and receiving 100s of death threats. His crime? Sleeping with somebody's wife? Stealing from the church? Preaching blasphemy? No, his crime was far more serious. He endorsed a Republican.

    Cite to instances where Democrat voters get threatened and death threats. Democrat Party, hateful, violent, threatening still after over 100 years. They just don't wear the hood any more.
     
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    I would say that since it is you accusing the republican party of doing something that drove blacks away from the republican party, that you would be the one capable of naming what that was. Ironically, you can't.

    For the life of me, I can't imagine what it was that compelled 82% of blacks to vote for Governor Orval Faubus after he blocked the Little Rock nine from entering Little Rock High School.

    For the life of me, I can't imagine what it was that compelled 95% of blacks to vote for Governor George Wallace, who did the same at the University of Alabama.
     
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    Once again you have failed to answer the question, now you are deflecting. I'm sure I can name lots of black democrat that have lost to white democrats in the primaries. That would require some research though. That doesn't answer the question, why do white democrats not have any blacks representing them in the House of Representatives? There are also a lot of black and minority republicans who lost in the last election cycles to white democrats. I don't have the time to research that now, but I'll keep it in mind when I find the time.
     
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    why would I EVER tell republicans ANYTHING that might cause them to take effective measures to bring black voters back to their party?

    ...and bringing up Faubus and Wallace in 2014 sort of reinforces my opinion of you that you don't really understand the significance of the difference between history and current events. You seem to be mired in the former when it is the latter that holds the key to your finding a solution to your problem.
     
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    you do that. I can pretty much guarantee that I will never find the time to delve into such historical minutiae. I've got ten folks coming over for dinner in about two hours... and then, in the days ahead, I can think of a whole world of things I'd rather do than google senseless stuff like that.

    "A lot of black and minority republicans"

    that's an oxymoron, actually.

    And I suppose your statement about them might be accurate if your definition of "a lot" was any number greater than the number of fingers you have on one hand... after the tragic punch press industrial accident where you lost three of your fingers. ;)
     

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