Derek Chauvin juror LIED about protest: Cop's hope of appeal boosted after picture emerges of juror

The Black population of the U.S. is 14%... the White population is about 72%.

How does THAT align with the racial construction of Chavin's jury?!

 

That's a good point... I was having trouble finding the the second question... not sure why that's buried 3 sections later than the first question.

If he said No to that one (and I assume you are guessing this is one of the 2 questions, although it's probably a good guess), I'd say that's a disingenuous answer....

But the shirt and hat are still NOT not an issue... Give that up....

EDIT - The event is described as below

A photo, posted on social media, shows Brandon Mitchell, who is Black, attending the Aug. 28 event to commemorate Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech during the 1963 March on Washington. Floyd’s brother and sister, Philonise and Bridgett Floyd, and relatives of others who have been shot by police addressed the crowd.

I guess I'd need to know how that event was publicized.... How much King and how much Floyd...

 

Uhhh... because he was being tried in a specific city, not the "U.S."

 

Not at all.

And you really have to live in a parallel universe to believe it and not understand how jury deliberations work.

Just because someone wears a T-shirt doesn't mean they can't judge a defendant impartially.

Anyone who watched the trial came to the same conclusion as the jurors who reached a unanimous decision.

Chauvin killed Floyd and the chances of a mistrial are zero.

 

"Of the 14 jurors seated so far, eight are white, four are black and two are multiracial, according to the court.

Nine are women and five are men, and they range in age from their 20s to their 60s."

 

LOL You still have no clue about who were on the jury!

 

Since when do juries have to be “representative of the population at large”? Also what population do they need to be representative of (town, city, state, nation)?

Are you advocating for racial and sex quotas in jury pools? The constitution only mandates “peers” — I always took that to mean Americans.

What should have been the breakdown in your opinion?

 

12 older white cops?

 

But the shirt and hat are an issue. Not sure why you think its not. If its not an issue then why would there be a question about how he views on BLM? (question 13) Such was obviously a concern or such questions wouldn't be on the questionnaire. And the shirt is relevant because it shows that he had already come to a determination on Floyds guilt. Especially when you consider the event he went to and that he lied on the questionnaire.

And no, I'm not guessing. Its what's being reported: LINK: Derek Chauvin Juror Brandon Mitchell’s Participation In D.C. March Could Help Appeal, Legal Experts Say – WCCO | CBS Minnesota (cbslocal.com)

As for how much King and how much Floyd? Even the little bit that you quote shows that the event was about police brutality and use of force as multiple families talked about people who have been killed by police. You may be interested to note: Link: Martin Luther King Jr.'s granddaughter speaks at DC march (nypost.com) The event was labeled "Commitment March: Get Your Knee Off Our Necks”. An obvious reference to Floyd. This also you might be interested in: George Floyd's brother breaks down at Washington DC protest (nypost.com) The event was clearly about police brutality and use of force, and Floyd was one of the topics talked about.

 

JFI:
No. 52: Black man, 30s

He said he works in the banking industry and is a youth sports coach.

In his questionnaire, he said he was neutral on Chauvin and Floyd. He said he had seen the video and has wondered why the other officers didn't intervene.

Prosecutor Steve Schleicher questioned one of the juror's statements made during questioning by the defense. The man had said he didn't think anyone had the intent to cause Floyd's death.

Schleicher said Chauvin's intentions would be contested during the trial and asked him if he'd have a problem setting aside his opinion.

"I don't think it would be that difficult at all," he said. "I think I can definitely look at it with an objective point of view."

 

I agree it's poorly worded. It's little wonder we're reading it differently.

 

His DOJ did no such thing. The conspiracy theory was investigated ad nauseam and proven not to be true. As far as I'm concerned, that embarrassing debacle is finally over us.

 

Well, you have the first link that indicated which questions are in question...

Shirt and hat still not an issue...

What did he put on his form and where was he wrong... dat's it...

 

There were exactly two White males on Chauvin's jury... TWO.

If the situation were exactly reversed racially, and the accused ex-police officer was a Black man, can you imagine all the howling and raging from the hyperliberal Left if there were only two (TWO) Black men on that jury...?!

. "No! No! That's just WRONG...!"

 

BLM March in Washington D.C. No person belongs on that jury that is a big BLM advocate... just as putting cop on that jury would have been wrong.

 

The guy flew to D.C. at the same time as the march, wore a BLM shirt, and clearly is involved, or at least has close friends/family that he went with that did go to the march in his realm. That too was a disqualifier.

"Since all the jurors in the trial had to fill out a questionnaire beforehand on whether they or anyone close to them “participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality,"

He should be in trouble and this is a retrial. How this dude thought he would get away with it is incredibly arrogant.

 

The picture was taken 3 days after the march. Can you provide some evidence he as part of the protest on the 28th?

 

Yes. For people to believe in and have respect for the law, fairness and impartiality is job number one.

 

Did you read the red font? He went with people that intended to and then went to the march. That's all it takes, but I will bet the dude lied and did the march too.

He's shady and should have been far more up front about his alignment with BLM and presence in D.C. during the march.

 

You are grasping at straws here.

 

Sure, sure, I am sure your opinion wouldn't change in the least if the person in question had been wearing a Proud Boys tee shirt or a white lives matter teeshirt. It just a teeshirt, it doesn't say anything at all about the individual wearing it... amirite?

 

Had it been a hung jury and a picture surfaced of a juror attending a pro-police rally with the family of Chauvin speaking in his support and protest against BLM and in that picture the juror is wearing a shirt that says "Free Dereck Chauvin" and a Police Lives Matter hat and he had lied about doing so on the questionnaire you'd be OK with that and the prosecution not retrying him?

 

The difference is in your scenario that one person would have overruled the voices of the other 13 jurists. In reality all 14 agreed.

Y’all are acting like this single jury member was the only one that voted guilty. A jury of his peers did so.

To answer your question, no — that would not have been ok. Now if it was 14 innocent verdicts and one person did what your scenario presents I wouldn’t have cared.

 

You may not have known this, but jurors are chosen jointly by the defense and the prosecution.

Chauvin's lawyers will have to prove that the guy in the T-shirt was biased in his deliberations.

And it's going to take a lot more than a T-shirt to prove that.

For the defense, it's mission impossible.

 

Do you understand the difference between Black lives matter and Black Lives Matter?

Cause one is a political organization that has negative views of police.