Did Biden mean misery for all when he spoke of unity?

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  1. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    I am curious as to why Pres. Biden is taking so many stances that go against his own supporters. Examples:

    Although covid should be a bi-partisan issue, I have the feeling that his own Dems are more fearful of it. So, why admit illegals that you know test positive?

    I've pointed out to many liberals that you can't have open borders and medicare for all both; it's an impossibility. I haven't had anyone argue over that point. But the response I always got was "what open borders?" Clearly Dems prefer medicare for all. So why open the borders instead of m for a?

    Ruining women's sports. Surely regular women represent a bigger voting bloc than transgenders. So wth?

    Why does it seem like he's trying to make his own supporters miserable (not to mention the rest of us)? Is it a calculated misery? Is he just showing them that he can do what he wants? Seems like political suicide to me.
     
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    Straw man argument. Very few liberals are arguing for "open" borders. The majority of Biden voters want controlled borders
    such as we have had in the past with some paths to citizenship, mainly for DACA kids.

    The proof that Biden is more of a centrist is that he's pissing off people at the far ends of both parties. Biden needs to hold on to
    the Independents who voted for him at the midterms, and while the far left might not like him, they hate Republicans
    more.
     
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    Laughable nonsense. Sorry, but Biden has slid so far to the left so fast that I question whether he's anything more than a front man good the worst possible leftist ideas.
     
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    Biden is blindly mouthing the words of his controllers and handlers, his cognitive capacity is on the bottom beg. His controllers are strive for political dominance and couldn’t care less about the health or welfare of the American people; more illegals, sick or not, means more grateful amnestied voters to keep Dems permanently in power. And if these illegals bring COVID Bidenistas will just blame Governors opening up their states too fast.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Describe these controlled borders you speak of. How are they controlled?
     
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    DHS works to secure our borders through the deployment of personnel, technology, and infrastructure; as well as working closely with our neighbors in Canada and Mexico, and our many federal, state, local, tribal, and territorial partners.

    CBP Border Patrol agents, agriculture specialists, Air and Marine Agents, and Officers guard America’s front lines. These men and women prevent terrorists and their weapons from entering the United States while continuing their mission of seizing contraband and apprehending criminals and others who illegally attempt to enter the United States.

    Through increases in Border Patrol staffing; construction of new infrastructure and fencing; use of advanced technology–including sensors, radar, and aerial assets–investments to modernize the ports of entry; and stronger partnerships and information sharing, we are creating a safer, more secure, and more efficient border environment.

    On a typical day at our borders in FY18, DHS:

    Conducted
    • 1,107 apprehensions between U.S. ports of entry

    • 75 arrests of wanted criminals at U.S. ports of entry

    • 764 refusals of inadmissible persons at U.S. ports of entry
    Official website of the Department of Homeland Security
     
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  7. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    This is why I struggle with how I feel about Biden. I am unsure if he can really be held responsible. I am unsure if he really even understands what he is doing/saying. I mostly blame his family, and "handlers", and the Dem Party. No matter how things happen, this cannot end well for Joe Biden, and he seems like a nice guy; they shouldn't have pushed him to run for president, even if he was jumping up and down saying he wanted to. When you love someone, you protect them. You don't press them to get into something they can't handle, regardless of the money you might make or power you might wield.
     
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    Misery ended at noon on January 20,2021.
     
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    Can you quote any liberal of any consequence that is in favor of "open borders", please?
     
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    I am a bit fuzzy about what a "liberal of any consequence" is. Apparently Pres. Biden is a liberal who favors open borders (obviously). But, no, of the liberals that I converse with, not a single one favored open borders if it means no medicare for all. One of them is my adult child, but I doubt you would define him as "any consequence."
     
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    Ah nope.
     
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    The only illegals that he is allowing deportations on are those with murder convictions. Assault? No problem, serve your time and then stay as long as you like afterwards. Theft? No problem, serve your time and then stay as long as you like afterwards.

    When the left denies "open borders" they go to the extreme. When everyone else talks about "open borders" they're talking about letting everyone in that the left thinks its safe enough to let in politically.
     
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    ~ It is highly doubtful that even Biden himself knows what he means ... :???:
     
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    Just misery for the failed MAGA. Since the opposite happened.

    Covid, bipartisan? isn't it all about mask v no mask. red state v blue state..
    Which illegal came to America recently? And was known to have covid?
     
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    What far left idea is he pushing forward?
     
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    Who are these controllers and handlers?
    What is their agenda?

    Isn't the covid relief package about the health and welfare of Amerian people?

    Are you spouting nothing but extreme far right nonsense?
     
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    He killed Dr. Seuss.
     
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    Seriously? You have to ask? Kamala, Jill, Pelosi, Schumer, DNC, Xi.
    Well, yeah, somewhere between 10-20% IS actual COVID relief. the rest is pure pork.
    Nope.
     
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    All of them, fortunately the Senate is seriously cramping his style...
     
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    Compared to Trump, my pet dog would have positive numbers.
     
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    Name 1. Don't be shy.
     
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    Seriously, I have to ask.
    What are they requesting? It appears you are afraid of females.

    You prefer white supremacists to be the handlers? As they were for trump?
     
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    Trumpublicans believe that any borders even slightly less than totally closed are completely open. Conservatives rather obviously believe that ANY immigration is completely bad for the US. If they had their way we wouldn't have any trade either. The US would be a hermit kingdom. We're closed
     
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    Any rational person with a little maturity and a balanced mind knew that Biden was in the early stages of mental aging issue- diminishing functionality. The left didn't care; they needed name recognition to have a viable chance. It starts mildly, but always progresses- and the person can't it happening. However, it's obvious to the outside observer, so the people who promoted Biden knew this existed, and no doubt have a plan to remove him at some point. In a few days, I'm going to help take away the car of an 88 year old woman I've known for 50 years- the most independent person I ever met in my life. She drives 100 mph, down the middle of the road and is unaware of other traffic- has caused many near-misses and terrifies the locals in her rural area, and refuses to acknowledge there's anything wrong. This is Biden in the presidency- and while it's pitiful, it's also very scary because we are all passengers in the same car. It's a loss of judgement, of balance, of awareness, and it is extremely dangerous. The worst is yet to come.
     
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    15 dollar an hour minimum wage men playing girl's sports...
     

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