Did Biden mean misery for all when he spoke of unity?

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  1. Chuck711

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    Yet Trump for 4 years saying he doesn't take responsibility for any Failures.............

    Even after 470,000 Dead Americans due to Trumps mishandling of the Virus
     
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    Exactly. I doubt the passage of the 2016 tax cut was even read by Trump or even most of the repo party.It’s hard to change a document when it’s written by a lobbyist who will be funding your next election.
     
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    Actually its about half of illegals in the US that overstayed their visa's. In any case your post is nothing more than a red herring. IE: Look over there!!! You don't deny what I said. You don't debunk what I said. You just point to another direction. Overstays are a problem yes. And they should be dealt with. But since overstays have nothing to do with illegal border crossings (IE: secure borders) Or illegally coming into the US, which is what I was talking about, there is no need to mention overstays as it needs its own discussion and its own solution that does not pertain to securing our borders. Since, you know, they came here legally initially. The laws dealing with them are even different from those that deal with entering the country illegally.

    Now, if you wish to talk about overstays then by all means, go for it. But creating a red herring does nothing.
     
  4. Distraff

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    Biden doesn't support open borders and he has kept border security. Biden opposes Medicare for all and simply wants to provide a public option and increase subsidies. Trans people in woman's sports sucks, but its not even in the top 10 important issues facing us right now.
     
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    I offer nothing but reported facts: Just the other day he said, while making a speech “What am I doing here?”. And could recite a list of four names.
     
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    Are you saying a transgender is not a man?

    How do they have periods or babies or a uterus if they are females?
     
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    Decriminalizing illegals who enter our borders is open borders. His border security has released illegals into America.

    Trans in women's sports does more than sucks. It makes the sport unplayable.

    What are the top ten issues in America for you?
     
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    Illegally crossing the border was a civil, not a criminal offense before Trump. Trump changed it and Biden changed it back. You can't reasonably say we had open borders before Trump.
     
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    They voted on 15 dollar minimum wage. Only 8 Democrats were against it. That means 42 senators were for it.

    Biden and the Democrats WANT 15 dollars and tried to pass it. Nothing you say will change that.

    Are you saying Biden did not put trans men into women's sports after all of the media said he did?
     
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    Trump is gone and won't run again. Biden is now running the show and doing the worst job I have ever seen at it.

    The Democrats don't care that his health is failing. They only care about themselves.
     
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    Illegally crossing the border should be a crime and anyone who disagrees is for open borders.

    Biden decriminalizing illegals = supporting open borders where anyone can cross and not get into trouble.

    Deal with it.
     
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    Trump never put covid patients into nursing homes. The Democrats and Cuomo did.

    Oh but we hate Trump so let's just blame it all on him. So much crying because orange man in your head.
     
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    Did we have open borders before Trump? Was border crossing a criminal offense before Trump?
     
  14. Bridget

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    I have read the Democrat platform many times. Matter of fact, when I was young and wondering what I was, it was what made me realize I was a conservative. It said, paraphrasing, that minorities (blacks in those days) would always need help because they could never get by without it. I knew right then that that wasn't what I believed. And also, it was the most racist statement I had ever seen. They haven't changed much, because the reparations statement says pretty much the same thing.

    I don't understand what you are attempting to say. I am thinking that you are telling me that, because I do not know any high level folks in the Democrat political circle (anybody of consequence), that I shouldn't comment on what I hear from rank and file liberals.

    This isn't really the issue, but we can talk about the overstaying of visas too if you want. Because that is also ILLEGAL (duh). Just for the record, I think expecting employers to fix our border is unfair, and it is cruel to let anyone into the U.S. who wants to come, except they won't be able to get a job. Wouldn't it be more humane for government to take responsibility stop them coming here in the first place?

    Exactly! That was my point. So why is Biden making it one of his major issues, i.e. an executive order??
     
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    Yes, I don't agree with the way Biden is handling the trans issue. But its such a tiny issue that it doesn't affect my view of Biden much. The economy, environment, and foreign policy are much more important than some sports competitions.
     
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    Red herring ? Nope, it’s the BIGGEST reason for illegals being here. But instead of putting as much onus on the white businessmen like Trump who hires and supports them, let’s do what ? Oh, say nothing about it and just talk about them.
     
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    Maybe you should get over Trump for your own sanity?
     
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    Trump is the figure head of the gop. I know you want to shift everything to Biden, it ain’t happening. Besides, as long as I’m beating on ‘“ delusional” Trump and calling him names, you can bet, it’s a worthwhile way of remaking legal. Besides, Trump heads spent months talking about Hillary and Obama. Get use to it or don’t read it. Trump is still running and losing the gop.
     
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    I agree, businesses hiring illegals is a big reason that they come here illegally. And its illegal for businesses to knowingly hire them. As well it should be. So what is your suggestion on preventing a business from hiring illegals? Making E-Verify mandatory has been suggested by those that oppose illegal immigration. Unfortunately Democrats keep saying no to that. Here, I'll even use a recent example from a highly leftist biased site as evidence:

    LINK: Republican Sens. Tom Cotton and Mitt Romney are proposing a $10 minimum wage - Vox

    Note that they have proposed this as a separate bill. One that is not a part of the Covid Relief bill. They're not afraid to make their proposals separate from something that has nothing to do with what the bill is supposed to be about. Why can't Democrats do the same?

    And so much for...what was it you said?..."say nothing about it". Try getting your news from various sources. Not just those that you agree with. I do. Why do you think I could provide the evidence to prove you wrong here?

    One other thing. Their bill is a compromise. And yet its claimed that Republican's won't compromise. Pfft. Think Dems are projecting.

    And just an FYI, Trump has not hired any illegal immigrant. One supervisor of one part of his businesses did. And that guy was fired last I knew. Along with any other illegals that they were able to identify. Trying to pin it directly on Trump is nothing more than you not able to evict Trump from your mind.
     
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    That's a pretty lame excuse. You don't have to be in anybody's political circle to quote them. You said that democrats were for "open boarders" You specifically mentioned Biden. So let's hear your quotes. It would serve no purpose if you quote your son (whom I respect, and I'm sure is a bright young man). And you probably love your son, but I'm fairly sure that you don't consider him the "official spokesman" of the DNC. So quote whatever source gave you this idea that democrats are for open boarders.

    Should be easy to answer.
     
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    Just read that he had his attorney send cease-and-desist letters to the RNC, NRCC and NRSC.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...c-and-nrsc-from-using-his-name-report.585792/
     
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    Quick comment. President's don't handle their top priorities through executive orders. They handle them by seeking legislation. I know everything Trump did was executive order because even with control of Congress he couldn't pass ANY legislation (poor leadership skills). But real Presidents understand that executive orders are only for quick but temporary fixes. For priorities, actual legislation is necessary. So the fact that this was handled through an executive order actually means that it has a lower priority than other matters.
     
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    I really don't believe that Joe Biden is in control of the decisions being made out of the Oval Office. He doesn't have to worry about offending anyone because he'll never run for office again. I think we're seeing an agenda being pushed through at maximum speed and, as Farragut once said down here on Mobile Bay - DAMN THE TORPEDOES! Full speed ahead...
    I wonder what the Tan Messiah will do next?
     
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    That's nice...
    Meanwhile:
    https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/thousands-of-migrants-crossing-us-border-overwhelm-government-agents/
    https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/0...als-shepherd-migrants-across-southern-border/
    https://www.axios.com/biden-immigra...der-aeaf0231-02d3-4c96-b139-68069c0c1189.html
    There are MANY more examples but a rational, non-biased adult gets the point.
     
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    You touch on THE issue for the Left in the not too distant future. they seem to be trying to import a new voter base while maintaining the base of current citizens. It should be interesting to see how those two groups treat each other when the scraps from the government table aren't enough to go around.
     
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