Does "Israel" have the right to exist ? (2_

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  1. Marlowe

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    Liebe , cut the BS - you've given everyone here sufficient reason NOT believe your claims.
     
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    On your logic I guess I am not English speaking either now because no English speaker would have spelled that way...LOL Beginning to see how silly yours and Art's exercise is? :fart:

    Not even in hindsight Marlowe. No boycott ever had an effect on nazi policies, which were clear before Hitler rose to power. Nothing ever justfies killing your own citizens because of their religion, race, creed, colour or sexual preference. Boycott aside.

    NATO's killings of civilisans in war (not being direct targets of the attacks) is not akin to killing your own citizens in peacetime. Sorry. However I do see that you are on the right path and are attempting to accept the injustice of the WWII. :)
     
  3. Liebe

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    As have you Saudi speller....

    Give it a break, personal attacks are not the stuff og political discourse. :fart:

    It is silly, nothing more.
     
  4. Bishadi

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    prove it!

    Show me that all them news reports are incorrect and that the 'jews' did not boycott germany and declar a 'holy war' against germany.

    Prove it. I posted because the bigotted comments of liebe claims that boycotting israeli goods was against the law in germany, so i posted that the bigots did in it the 33' period and backed it up, with EVIDENCE.


    israel already exists. Dont mean how it occurred was 'right'.

    My opinion is clear. And always has been. but you labeling me antisemitic is down right STUPID. (and off topic)

    jews DID declare WAR on germany before ww2 ever started; that is historical fact (unless you can prove me wrong)

    And talemudd is voted in dialogue by religious wingnuts. kind of like the idiots that BS about ww2 to appear like it simply was to pick on jews. 60-70 million folk died in that war...... not just 6 million jews (less than 10% of the deaths)

    Weird part is, the jewish folk declared war on germany before germany fired a shot.

    ie.... kind of like imposing sanctions is practically and act of war
    when i first came here, this whole forum was talking about how 'evil' muslims are

    but that has changed. Only a few stoned cold pigs do that any more.

    look at the threads, you can see them.

    to you perhaps.

    I comprehend what the words mean and could care less what bigots believe.

    by the uneducated, perhaps!
    you can lie to me and anyone else, but soon the lies will eat you up inside.
     
  5. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Such is a controversial term, but Bishadi does not deny that Jews were wrongly murdered. Rather, he/she recognizes that Jews were not the only ones harmed in concentration camps. Such does not demonstrate any hostility towards Semites.
     
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    i didnt know that.

    heck, i guess i am boycotting SA. I wont buy diamonds. (a stupid rock just to feel good about...?!?!?!?????)


    when it ruined SA and caused aparthied and is perhaps the most corrupt businesses next to arms, on the earth.
     
  7. Liebe

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    Nonsense, Creation.

    The term exists and has a meaning. Saying that does not in any way express a lack of concern for muslims, and the correct term for irrational hatred of muslims is islamophobia but not anti-semitism. Otherwise it is like saying that you object to the term greens for lettuce because it might unfairly discriminate against cabbage, which is also green. Silly example but you know what I mean - language is language - it only conveys the meaning you imply and does not judge others less worthy.
     
  8. Liebe

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    You didn't know that because it is Marlowe's theory of the truth.

    But you can keep your money. Something tells me you haven't invested in diamonds lately anyway. :-D
     
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    Huge ? I think Not - but tell me how "Huge" ?

    Are they the ones - like White Jews - living off the fat of the land - exploiting Blacks ? employing cheap Black Labour ?

    Wrong. - - I detest liars like you + people who are dishonestly flying false flags - pretending being what they're NOT.



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  10. The Judge

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    It's probably the Nazis who fled Germany following WWII.
     
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    hitler was nuts and many have known and with many points

    what about the other 90% of th people that died in ww2


    Ever wondered if maybe hilters sickness could have been stopped if the bigots didnt go against their own country.

    kind of like AIPAC is not for american policy but for sissyreals beliefs
    no you're not. You get pushed around because you lie out the gazoo and will not address questions when asked.

    We all know you are german and believe in judaism.

    i think some have claimed you are nazi (ashkanazi) but no one knows your ethnicity, that i know of.


    how do you know?

    i never saw a haMbook for hasbara..........

    Any links so we can confirm your BS. Otherwise, you are giving another reason to be picked on.

    I personally can see your posts are based on hypocracy and a superiority complex. But in fact, it is that hypocracy that makes you appear to be less than my dog.
     
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    I dont know marlowe's theory.

    can you enlighten me?

    investment?

    what a crock.

    The large stone can be good investments but when i realized the industry is controlled by pigs as well that the marketing into the US is that ideology of marriage practically requires a diamond to be given to the wife; that was it for me.

    the marketing is fantastic and now almost a cultural thing but unless a person buys volume or a very large stone purely for the 'steal' there is not a human being i know that has ever made a return on a diamond "investment".

    you must not be business savy!
     
  13. Liebe

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    It is not a cntraversial term at all. It is an anti-semitic term. I have not seen Bishadi claim that Jews were murdered at all and using the term Holohoax conveys the opposite (hence the term "hoax"). That is certainly an anti-semitic viewpoint and has no bearing on the fact that others were murdered.
     
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    FYI - South Africa's diamonds was /still are controlled/stolen from Blacks by South African Jews - Oppenheimers + Co. who've always had close links with Zionists and Israel.

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    Indeed the term exists, however the meaning is not set in stone. Especially in this case.

    For example, referring to lettuce as greens is a narrow definition. To forever consider greens to be only lettuce because some time long ago someone wrote of greens as lettuce would be both illogical and silly.

    Language Liebe, is not language. It is a fluid concept subject to repeated changes. However, it does indeed convey implied meaning within a much wider context - therefore when Judge or anyone wishes to refer to all semites using the anti term, the meaning is conveyed.

    And moreover the correct term for anti muslim feeling is indeed islamophobia, its also anti semitism which is a better use of language as the semitic people are of all kinds of religions in the middle east. For example do we need to use anti-arabism now for you just because you would want to restrict anti-semtism to jews only?
     
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    I havent seen him deny the murder of roughly six million jews. And ive been reading his posts as long as you.
     
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    didnt debeers buy the oppenheimer vesting in kimberly?

    ooops........... same religious wingnut group!

    ps..... men in curlers controlling that industry in SA is not a theory, it's a fact!


    ie..... that is what the apartheid is from!
     
  18. Liebe

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    Yes Bishadi you are an undiscovered nobel prize winning candidate and an investment guru. I bow to your obvious expertise in all matters. :mrgreen: The term "investing" in something does not mean making an investment but making a purchase. Just a hint.

    And you now know Marlowe's theory hence you said "I didn't know that".

    If you boycott SA though, based on your view of the jewish boycott of Germany under the control of Hitler, you do realise that you give the South Africans a reason to kill your people huh? :twisted:
     
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    I dont know marlowe's theory
    Bishadi

    I'm only going by what she said on another thread :

    Here it is complete with links to the thread . :



    cheers...
     
  20. Liebe

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    So you haven't seen him deny it but you have seen him refer to the holohoax. What does hoax mean?
     
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    Depends what the hoax is.

    Is the hoax that the jews werent killed or that only jews were killed?

    Or that most people killed in ww2 were not jews?

    Im not sure what Bishadi meant by the term. Shouldnt we ask him?
     
  22. Liebe

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    Yes I was born there, as I have said. Therre is a huge German population there which you do not seem to know. Does being born abroad and returning home mean I am not of my people because you say so?

    Why do you denigrade immigrants anyway? I am waiting to hear.

    What makes a person German or English or American?
     
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    Well I advise you to google this widely used term, because Bishadi did not come up with it.

    Here are some sites to start you off. You can then try to persuade me that it isn't anti-semitism:

    http://www.theholohoax.com/
    http://www.holohoax101.com/

    Yes Bishadi is in wonderful company.
     
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    whats' there to deny......?

    a bunch of folk died in ww2 and the jewish gang didnt do so well. i will confirm that from what i have read.


    but the holocaust should not be about jews only. That's the stupid ignorant bigotry i dont follow.

    10 times the jewish death affected the earth............. and none of them utter religious wingnuts 'declared war' on germany, while living in germany.

    To me that is borderline STUPID.

    It is almost like zionist moving to palestine because they believe 'god' gave it to them. That is just stupid!


    or what about the idea, that because 'god' told them, they are allow to uproot people from their homes and steal their land, bulldoze their farms and then put them in a refugee camp called gaza and think they are going to be OK with it.

    How about paying them palestinian peasants reparations?

    How about make the zionist star an illegal symbol and anyone that denies palestinians equal right be fined and put into jail?

    What is happening to them people is the holocaust?

    I am sick of bigots selling to this earth that they are innocent and deserve everyones sympathy.

    I would perfer giving gaza a battery of nuclear weapons and make the pigs do what is right, or be wiped off the map!


    ie....jeruselem is not israel, period!

    UN resolution 476, 478...........And 181............... so screw israel until they get their heads out of the tale MUDD
     
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    You're using the term ' anti-Semitism ' in it's exclusively jewish, 'classical ' sense or as pertaining to Semites ?
     
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