Donetsk Fears Ukraine Attack, Asks Citizens To Evacuate To Russia

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  1. Hollyhood

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    Good to know Nazi.
     
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    The Kremlin $hitnugget is desperate....his bluffs been called and he don't like it. This might get ugly!
     
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    It already is ugly in Ukraine, given the cyber and psychological warfare he has been waging there on top of using the high tech hybrid warfare that Jenny likes to gush over to kill Ukrainian soldiers. It's so sad.
     
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    The Donetsk and Lugansk won't be destroyed, because the Ukrainians will be too busy trying to hold on to Mariopol, Odessa, Kharkov and Kiev. The Ukrainians will be in for a big surprise.

    The Republics said when they signed Minsk II, that if they renege on it the way they did Minsk I and restart the war, then nothing will stop them from freeing the rest of the Donbass region.

    Today there was a sabotage attack in the center of Donetsk and they're telling the people to stay calm and not to move about the city. Off course the fake news media is calling it a false flag attack. Funny though that the Russians weren't able to stop it. They have stopped quite a few attacks in the past years.
     
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    Yea, Ukraine waits until they are surrounded by Vlad's troops to try and take back territory that was stolen 8 years ago.

    It must be embarrassing to have the west announce every step Vlad is taking right before he takes it.

    Vladimir Putin is a pathetic old man.
     
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    Oop! The fake news media strikes again.


    Main Street Media

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    It's this way that way front and back.
    It's how we start our new attack,
    in spinning 'bout the latest fact,
    and turn what's white into a black.
    - Jeannette
     
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    Exactly. As the article stated:

    ... a video popped up purporting to show an attempted Ukrainian attack on chlorine tanks in the Donbas. (1)

    Now the rebel leaders in the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts have ordered the evacuation of women and children to Russia, claiming – with no evidence whatsoever – that a Ukrainian attack is imminent. Right on cue, a car bomb went off in Donetsk, injuring no one, but providing a fireball for the cameras. (2)
    ...​

    (1) Here is the fake news about the alleged attempted attack on chlorine tanks:
    https://112.international/conflict-...rine-ammonia-in-horlivka-prevented-69814.html

    (2) And here is the fake news about the car bomg in Donetsk:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Moscow-rebels-start-evacuating-civilians.html

    Here is RIA Novosti reporting (in Russian) on the first "refugees" arriving from Donbas:
    https://ria.ru/20220218/donbass-1773691278.html

    Here is another RIA Novosti fake news story, also in Russian, about Ukrainian forces allegedly preparing to attack:
    https://ria.ru/20220218/donbass-1773644956.html?in=t

    Fake news is doing its job to prepare the Russian people to accept a Russian invasion of Ukraine under false pretenses, specifically based on a false flag car bombing and lies about Ukrainian intentions.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course I feel for the Ukrainian soldiers, because it was usually the conscripts that were killed not the Nazis. The nationalists were being trained for 6 months by Americans, and given protective gear. While the conscripts who were usually from the Russian, Hungarian or Russyn areas and who had no desire to fight for a fascist government, were given only 2 weeks training and no protective gear - that is unless they paid for it themselves.

    I recall at Dabaltsevo, when the Ukrainians were about to be caught in a cauldron, headquarters told all the officers to leave quietly and not to tell the men. One officer stayed behind, and was told when he surrendered, that all the men were free to leave, but it had to be in light vehicles, not in the heavy ones.

    When the officer called headquarters, he was told to leave with the men he worked with in light vehicles, and then have the rest of the men follow him in the heavier ones. Destroying those tanks was worth more to the junta, than the lives of the men in them.

    Three thousand Ukrainians were killed at Dabaltsevo, and later on they said that most men died from friendly fire, because they didn't know how to man the guns.
     
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    I don't know about conscripts, but there are a lot of volunteers preparing to resist any invasion from Russia. Слава героям!

    You should stop calling democratic, freedom-loving people Nazis and fascists. That's not nice.
     
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    The only freedom loving people are those in Donetsk and Lugansk who refused to succumb to a government where they have no representation. We fought a revolution for that very reason.

    If Zalensky wants to retain his nation intact, all he has to do is comply with the Minsk II agreement and decentralize Ukraine and federalize it. But he refuses to. Even now Putin is telling him to speak to the heads of the Republics and start the process, but he refuses to.
     
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    See guys, all Ukraine has to do is dissolve their country. Putin has been very patient. It is not Putin's fault that Ukraine exists.
     
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    Because the ones you know are from Western Ukraine, but they are only a segment of Ukraine, not the whole country which has different sentiments. They have been fed lies deliberately because Washington wants a war and doesn't care how many are killed because of it.

    All Washington cares about is creating an Afghanistan type quagmire for Russia in Ukraine, and it's not going to happen.
     
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    President Biden:

    “I have spoke with the president of Ukraine a dozen times, maybe more, I don’t know…”

    He doesn’t know… you think? What a moron. I hope he stands strong on this, because “I don’t know” that he will.
     
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    Yea, not knowing if it was 12 or 15 conversations seems very important.
     
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    This is less logical than usual even for you, the notion that Russia is going to invade Ukraine and Ukrainians are going to resist that by force because Washington wants war. Just think about how completely non-sensical that is.
     
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    Stand strong on what, not abiding by the Minsk agreement to federate Ukraine so they can end up in a war and Ukraine can dissolve as a nation, or be strong and abide by the agreement and save Ukraine?

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    Is it war and a break up or federate?

     
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    But Ukraine isn't threatening Russia. Russia has Ukraine surrounded and is threatening military action if we don't acquiesce to their unreasonable demands concerning NATO membership.

    It makes no sense at all to say that anything Washington is doing is pushing Russia towards war. They are in no way threatened by Ukraine. Not even the separatist regions are threatened.
     
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    I think your speculation of Russia conducting the false flag operation is speculation and there's no clear cut answer who's conducting the false flag operation...Russia or Ukraine, er, both countries have reasons to conduct false flag operations against one another.
     
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    Yea, I know. That’s the part that bothers me the most.

    It is obvious, but the US is such a mess right now our political divisions overwhelm everything.

    Putin sees this as jigs best shot, because we’re fighting over who is worse between democrats and republicans.

    Our bipolar political system will be our downfall.
     
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    Because Ukraine just can't wait to be invaded, right?
     
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    It may not be “Russia” as in Putin or official Russian government actors, it could be Russian allied actors n Ukraine.

    It is not anyone from the west or pro Ukraine. Russia has over 3/4 of their ground forces near Ukraine. Ukraine and Joe Biden didn’t do that.

    If it was us, we would have done it before Russia was prepared to invade.
     
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    Certainly, but everything I've seen indicates a fixation on Putin and Russia that actually ties into her orthodox faith and is based on her regular consumption of weird Greek blog content and other pro-Russian stuff, such as the Duran:

    https://theduran.com/situation-in-donbass-massively-escalates-war-prospects-rise/

    And what do you see there? Content from Zero Hedge and RT, i.e. Russian propaganda. Imagine someone deciding that Russia's propaganda is true and all that contradicts it is false, and holding this belief with a religious fervor. That's Jenny, I think. She doesn't just believe the Russian narrative, but really wants it to be true and therefore has a very strong bias. You can't reason with someone like that.
     
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    The politically elite in America want war with Russia and will use Ukraine as the proxy. The Biden Administration panders to the politically elite...Always has.
     
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    I don’t think it matters whether she was manipulated into doing Russia’s bidding or is on the payroll.

    Even by your explanation, she would be doing the bidding of the Russian government.
     

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