Face masks made ‘little to no difference’ in preventing spread of COVID, scientific review finds

I’m aware and yet it was the left overwhelmingly that tries to push the genuinely stupid and ineffective masking in a normal day environment.

Incorrect, the scientific illiteracy belongs to the left pushing the fake news that this masking worked. It didn’t and it was obvious it wouldn’t have.

you can believe what you want about what I’ve read. I’m objectively correct.

I said it was stupid and ineffective because it was, objectively the data proves that.

No data proved what you are claiming, that has been throughly debunked. There was no measurable effect. It was a nonsense claim from the beginning. That literally never made any sense of thi if it about critically.

 

It was the left that supported it despite how obviously foolish it was

 

it made the elderly feel safer, even if that was all the non-medical masks did, I had no issues wearing it, was not that big a deal

but as most did not wear it properly, saw republicans leaving their nose uncovered, etc, even with a proper mask, it did little good

now visiting cancer patients without a mask was crazy

 

it was the Trump task force, thus the right pushing those directions, came from the top down

same with Trump's shutdown guidelines and his reopening guidelines

 

False. It was completely left wing, from Fauci and supported by the left wing as well.

 

... or that healthy people who didn't have covid could somehow give them covid...
... or that everyone else needed to get jabbed in order for THEIR OWN jabs to work properly...
... or that everyone else had to wear masks in order for THEIR OWN masks to work...

 

Or that forcing masks on kids and hiding faces during their formative years when the kids are learning social skills and social norms would not have damaging psycological effect.

 

You've already been told countless times why surgeons wear masks, and it's not because of viruses.

I was expecting masks to do all but nothing, and that expectation was based on the mathematical truth that 3+ microns >>>> 0.1 microns.

Your issue, not his.

Appeal to popularity fallacy. A stupid useless action is a stupid useless action, no matter how popular it may be. --- The action was based on religion (Church of COVID rituals) and fear, not on science or even mathematics.

Religion and fear are not critical thinking.

Did you know that 'associated with' is not 'caused by'? Did you know that most "studies" are bogus and simply find the preferred results of whoever funded them? Did you know that a study cannot magically change mathematical truths?

They were advised for "two weeks" to "slow the spread"... Two weeks... not over two years.

That is nothing more than Church of COVID religious belief.

Correct. But efficacy also depends on the engineering specs of the mask and the size of the particulate that the mask is supposed to be filtering out.

Popularity has nothing to do with efficacy. A mask will work for its wearer the same (per its engineering specs) no matter how many other people are wearing or not wearing masks.

Whether flimsy or sturdy, if the pores of the mask are much larger than the size of viruses are (3+ microns >>>> 0.1 microns), then the mask is not going to stop viruses. You keep trying to deny basic mathematics in favor of your religious beliefs.

Irrelevant. N95's don't work either. They can effectively filter much smaller particulate than cloth masks can, so that's "something", but they're still not capable of effectively filtering particulate as small as viruses are.

Parroting the words of others is not critical thinking, but go on...

Remember the "study" you referenced earlier that used the words "associated with" instead of "caused by"? Well, that's what's going on here too. Did you know that a certain amount of exposure to germs is a GOOD thing? It helps to build up immunity and to have a healthy immune system.

... what they are designed to protect... not viruses.

Surgeons don't wear masks because of viruses.

I've been a critical thinker, posting the relevant mathematical truth with regard to masks and viruses. YOU, on the other hand, have parroted the incorrect thoughts of others and value your fear-based religious beliefs over mathematical truths.

I didn't. Masks aren't designed to protect against viruses. Viruses are too small.

I don't believe that. Plenty of Republicans were dooped by the BS too... Many times I was the lone person in a store not bothering with wearing a mask (as most people didn't have the courage to stand up against stupidity).

Regardless of how many people properly use masks, viruses are far too small for masks to filter them out. This is a basic mathematical truth that cannot be rationally denied.

I've given you a mathematical-based explanation. See above.

You've already been told countless times why surgeons wear masks, and it has nothing to do with viruses.

You're welcome. I'd now appreciate it if you'd do the same.

 

The information about face masks and contagious illnesses is not dependent on Trump Maga supporters, or idiots like RFK Jr. comparing the Covid 19 vaccine and behaviour of government to the holocaust, on and on.

As a Canadian I stay out of the right wing American conspiracy subjective allegations about Covid 19 including masks and go to sources other than extremist conspiracy individuals on this forum.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-34776-7

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/y...reading-covid-despite-review-saying-they-dont

The above is as recent as I can find and yes anti mask experts (with zero science or medical training) cherry pick specific articles.

Good for them. Whoopee.

If certain Americans want to ignore basic science and common sense they will. The state and federal governments in the US and the federal and provincial governments in Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, EEC all worked together and did their best.

https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/co...or-fact-masks-are-effective-against-covid-19/

https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/Blogs/BTH/Posting335.aspx

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...s/about-non-medical-masks-face-coverings.html

 

Canadian studies?

You know School Master Trudy was shutting down bank accounts of lockdown protesters.

 

If the face mask were not the answer, Bandanas might be.

 

it was the Trump and the Trump Task Force... nice try

next the right will say Operation Warp Speed was Dems too

 

I talked with a lot of people who don't know what offers good protection. The right is not informed, either.

 

Most people aren’t. Simply how it is. But to have ever thought a cloth mask in a normal setting was helping anything was the height of astoundingly sheep like behavior from our society.

 

Incorrect, it was democrats like fauci.

 

Worn properly or not, they did not work. It was genuinely one of the more foolish things our society got made to believe would protect them. And Dems had their nose outside of them as well.

Or would just put the mask on for clout, such as AOC when she was about to take a picture lmao.

 

There is no real science being conducted that reasonably concluded a cloth mask in a normal setting was helping anything. The fact most were unable to think critically and walk themselves through exactly why they weren’t going to work is quite astounding.

Science is great, it’s the single most useful tool we have in finding truth. And yet so many allow it to be corrupted and falsely used to push narratives they emotionally cling to.

 

it was Trump and his task force

 

It wa leftist fauci and the fools who “just believed”.

 

If the government was more prone to telling the truth, we could avoided the insane flap over "masks."

 

All you seem to be able to do is repeat the words “stupid and ineffective” without providing any reasons why. You have provided no data to support your points. You keep repeating your mantra about the left which as I have explained is meaningless. If your really want to focus on political leanings, let’s consider Trump.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/comparing-trump-and-biden-on-covid-19/

What was stupid and ineffective was Trump taking too long to close the borders, was slow to initiate testing and contact tracing, and most of all he minimized the threat of the virus to the tune of over 1 million deaths. How many people died due to Biden’s mask mandate?

Stupid comments by Trump during the first months of the Pandemic.

— On January 22, in response to a question about whether he was worried given the first report of known U.S. case, he said, “No. Not at all. And– we’re– we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s— going to be just fine.”
— On February 2, “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
— On February 25, “We have very few people with it.”
— On April 28, “But I think what happens is it’s going to go away. This is going to go away.”
— On June 17, he said it was “fading away.”
— On July 19, “I think we’re gonna be very good with the coronavirus. I think that at some point that’s going to sort of just disappear. I hope.”
— On August 5, “It’s going away. Like things go away. No question in my mind that it will go away, hopefully sooner rather than later.”

Stupid Pandemic actions by Trump.

• He touted the use of the drug, hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, despite the lack of evidence of its effectiveness, warnings of potential harms, and even after federal COVID-19 treatment guidelines recommended against its use.
• He suggested that applying ultraviolet light to or inside the body, or injecting disinfectant, could combat coronavirus.
• He has attributed rising COVID-19 cases to increased testing, despite the fact that this claim is not backed up by the data.
• He has questioned the use of face masks, and given inconsistent messages about their use, even after CDC guidelines recommended them. It was only in July that he began to wear one in public at times and talk about their importance.
• In pushing schools to re-open in person, he has said that children are “almost immune” and “don’t have a problem,” despite evidence to the contrary.
• He called the FDA’s issuance of an emergency use authorization for convalescent plasma, a potential treatment for COVID-19, “historic” and a “breakthrough,” even though the FDA itself said it “may be effective” and the National Institutes of Health COVID-19 treatment guidelines panel concluded that there were insufficient data to recommend either for or against it and at this time, it “should not be considered standard of care for the treatment of patients with COVID-19.”

Promoting the wearing masks to diminish the spread of the virus and thereby preventing the deaths of vulnerable people was neither stupid nor ineffective. That did not cause the deaths of over one million Americans.

 

I have thoroughly explained why, as have others in this thread. Nothing you have provided is true., it’s the same regurgitation the msm and left have been providing us for years. It’s not true. Again, thinking critically about this piece of cloth from the beginning was enough to determine it doesn’t work in a norma setting to prevent the spread of a virus. Utilizing these cloth masks was absolutely stupid, and ineffective. No measurable difference has been shown.

More people died to the virus under Biden than Trump. And Dems called every action Trump took racist to fight the virus lol, including limiting travel
To and from China. Your revisionary history isn’t working here.

 

If people thought critically about it as well, same thing.

 

There is a bit of knowledge required. SARS-CoV-2 gets around surgical masks as an aerosol.

https://med.uth.edu/orl/wp-content/uploads/sites/68/2020/04/Elastomeric-Respirators-P100-B-Howard-2020-03-30-REV.pdf

 

There is a small bit, but we already knew masking was ineffective with other similar viruses. We knew the size of the virus nearly immediately, we knew the size of average masks, we knew these masks did not have a seal, we (are supposed to) have common sense with all of the above.

And that’s not even all conclusive in the reasoning but more than enough.