Fascism and banning free thought in Florida

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    you supported the modern-day witchcraft trials you believe when people protest against the things you want that it's an insurrection.

    You believe that what you want is Paramount and anyone who do this agrees with you is a criminal you are a fascist.
    I think you're smelling your own upper lip what I'm getting at is that you are the fascist and you're calling everyone else that to try and get this stink off of you.
     
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    No, he is wrong.

    Just like on most other issues.
     
  3. chris155au

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    What the hell are you talking about? I asked you if radical individualism is what you heard him talking about!
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Nice DODGE on the rest of my post by the way! I don't blame you, it was certainly alot to handle.
     
  5. Ritter

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    "Radical individualism" is an anti-concept.

    It is very clear from how he - and other conservatives alike - speak about individualism that they neither support it nor do they even understand it.

    Conservstives are the number one enemy of Liberty.
     
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    The rest of your post was boring.
     
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    So long as there are government schools students will always be just an election away from having to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and the Lords Prayer, or whatever else may please any given ruling political class.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/07/mao-little-general-horror-cultural-revolution
     
  8. chris155au

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    Maybe you just don't understand what they're saying. That's okay, it happens. What is your understanding of individualism?
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire. Of course OSHA does good. Is it bloated? Yes. Does that make it meaningless? No.

    Our entire federal government is bloated.
     
  10. Golem

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    Oh... Now I understand. You were just invoking the MAGA conspiracy theory according to which government agencies (even those whose heads were appointed by Trump) pay-off judges (even those appointed by Trump) and jurors (some of which even voted for Trump) for some world-wide "Deep State" conspiracy which is so well organized that multiple investigations by prosecutors appointed by Trump and Republican committees (probably all part of the Deep State Constpiracy, I guess) and billions of dollars over the course of over 4 years could not find even a SHRED of evidence about.

    For a split second there I thought it was something serious. Won't make that mistake again.
     
  11. Polydectes

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    January 6th was a scam. Kind of like the Reichstag fire.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sure was! Among other things. And people are doing jail time because they fell for Trump's scam. I'm sure the scammer in chief will be following them soon.
     
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    Perpetrated by FBI and house Democrats to drum up a scam.

    Good of you to admit that.
     
  14. Ritter

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    Individualism is the view of man as an independent and sovereign entity with an inalienable right to his own life. This is why compound-terms like "radical individualism" makes no sense.

    I understand individualism, but Conservatives clearly don't.
     
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    You'll come up with any old excuse to avoid debating me! :roflol:
     
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    It is at times difficult to see where today's Republican Party is going. The direction's clearly different from the general path which the United States of America has been on in the past several decades.

    That said, if there's a destination for the Republican Party, we'll see the states of Florida and Texas get there first.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    Maybe it's easier to see where the Democratic Party is going?
     
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    Hi, chris155au.

    I believe it is. The Democratic Party has certain large projects which they have proposed and, where possible, attempted to put into practice.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    And the Republican Party has NOT?
     
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    Hi again, chris155au.

    My perception, and that's what it is, is that the Democratic Party is identified more with large projects -- forgiveness of student debt, etc. -- while the Republican Party is identified more by their ideology. That leads more to actions than to programs. It's not a clear-cut situation by any means. I do not, by the way, see either one as bad and the other as good. A secular humanist, I evaluate accomplishments by either party against that ideology.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    Alright, well Shapiro has never once said the opposite to this view. Interesting that you believe in inalienable rights. Where do you think they come from?

    After looking into it more, while guys like Shapiro use the term "radical individualism", I think that they use it interchangeably with just "individualism" without the "radical" part. Your above definition certainly sounds good, but I'm not sure that it's supported by much. You may in fact be doing a bit of 'redefining', whether intentionally or not. Would you not agree that individualism has something to do with the idea that the interests of the individual should gain precedence over the state or a social group?
     
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    You don't think that forgiveness of student debt is driven by ideology?
     
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    Hi again, chris155au.

    Semantic discussions are fun, but I already noted that I was describing perceptions. That precludes absolutes, which are rarely real.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    No, the rest of my post was challenging. Too challenging apparently for you to have any reply. In summary then:
    • You have not been able to stand by your position on what makes a good documentary. You implied that if there is some 'drive' behind a documentary, this makes it a bad documentary and then I challenged you on that by asking: "if there is some 'drive' behind a documentary, this makes it a bad documentary?"
    • You have not been able to stand by your position that Walsh is "out to destroy."
    • You have not been able to stand by your position that Walsh did not present any counters or ask for clarifications.
    • You have not been able to stand by your position that Jordan Peterson, addresses the same question in the
      exact same way as the CRACKPOT professor who destroyed himself while trying to answer Walsh's questions.
    • You have not been able to stand by your position that conservatives are only against public education because of LGBTQ matters.
     
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    Again, incompetence is not a crime. So the FBI was able to get away with their screw ups in the Trump/Russia investigation.
     

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