Fascism and banning free thought in Florida

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    I understand that it did nothing and therefore could benefit no one.
     
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    Uh no it means it did nothing that already wasn't being done. Why? Because constantly training replacements is expensive, and time consuming, and increases the chance of more accidents.
     
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    Then you understand wrongly. It is a MAJOR reason we have the leading, most powerful capitalism in the world. How’s that for a hint?
     
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    Sez you. You’re a poster on a forum.
     
  5. garyd

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    Your logic in the above is no different than that of the pagans who did a sacrifice of some sort, not infrequently human to guarantee a good crop. Well we did it last year and it worked then...
     
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    (^^^ self critique ^^^)
     
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  8. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    And you are wrong it had nothing to do with it we got a head start because most of the rest of the world had been bomb flat in WWII. All that tax code did was tie an anchor around our necks.
     
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    Ok. Let me spoon-feed you. Did many of the top corporatists (CEOs, corporate executives, and Board members) pay 90% of any portion of their “compensation” to the IRS to satisfy their tax bill? If not, why not?
     
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    Nobody did that doesn't mean the 70% many did pay wasn't bad for the economy.
     
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    Says reality. Constantly training people means lower production longer lead times, more accidents and more scrap parts because well they are trainees.
     
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    That was a stab at half of my question. You didn’t say they didn’t pay in the 90-91-92 percent bracket.
    And what percentage of CEO’s paid in the 70% bracket?

    See, those top brackets were not used much at all because of business deductions that were many. The big money was plowed back into the businesses instead of being taken by the IRS in taxes.
     
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    To say OSHA does nothing is nutz on the face of it.
     
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    Yeah, you're right. Only:
    • You have no argument for why the Walsh documentary is "horrendous", and my reply gave you the opportunity to present one.
    • You have no argument for how conservatives are no longer pro-individual rights and pro-capitalism, and my reply gave you the opportunity to present one.
    • You have not supported your claim that conservatives do not speak out against teachers teaching "all kinds of nonsense", and my reply gave you the opportunity to support it.
    Other than this, yeah there was absolutely nothing to address! :roflol:
     
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    So you had a black friend? Do tell !

    Books are not being banned some of them are not allowed in a children's public School library.

    Banned means they're totally not available
     
  17. Kode

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    “Banned from the library” and “banned from schools” are BANS. Smoking is BANNED in all public buildings. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ban
     
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    Banned is when they make them illegal and gather them all up in a big pile and set fire to them. The books are still available they are just not allowed to be pedal to children in the public school system
     
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    I did not say it does nothing. I said it accomplished nothing in terms of on the job injuries that is evident in the statistics. It does a lot of things mostly involving filing compliance paper work and enforcing the grievances of disgruntled former employees.
     
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    On this point, which is the one related to this thread, I should say that it's not that conservatives are no longer those things. What is happening is that the Republican Party (once considered a conservative party) is no long conservative. It was taken over by an egocentric politician whose only ideology is egocentrism. He got elected by catering to the extreme right (actual fascists) under the assumption that conservatives would vote Republican, even if he stood in the middle of 5th avenue and shot somebody. Whatever free-thinking conservatives remained (a.k.a. "never-trumpers"), were "excommunicated" by the Trump-cult So what remained were fascists, and conservatives who tolerate fascism who vote Republican out of habit. The party has since turned to catering almost exclusively to the fascists thus abandoning the conservative principles that you mention.

    Biden is a very conservative candidate, if by "conservative" you are referring to the ideology of being pro-individual rights, pro-capitalism, pro- the government staying out of people's private matters, and against wasteful spending. The Republican is no longer any of those. And the main figures of that Party have abandoned those.

    So REAL conservatives (who understand what the word means) are still conservative. But the Republican Party is NOT.
     
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    They are totally not available from these kid's library. To argue that if they can get them on... Amazon (or something like that), they're not banned in their school library is laughable. And a clear indicator that fascism has no arguments and will never have arguments to justify censorship of history and ideas.
     
  22. chris155au

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    What you need to do in order to even BEGIN to support your position:

    1: To specify what makes Trump a fascist
    2: To define "conservative."
     
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    Read again!
    You tell me. I'm using the parameters YOU listed. Also referenced some of my own which I listed.

    Obviously you responded to a post without reading it.
     
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  24. garyd

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    So you are basically arguing that we had a low tax regime in the fifties? So what is your beef? Even after deductions you were still looking at fifty percent or more in most cases. Jfk dropped the top tax rate to fifty percent and retained all those deductions and the economy boomed.
     
  25. Kode

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    How do you enforce grievances?
     

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