Flood myth or biblical fact: Should believers swallow the Noah story?

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  1. Finley99

    Finley99 New Member

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    What about the other loads of bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? Shouldn't they get equal time and space when reading the holly bibble??

    A ghost floating on a cloud meeting his audience to escort them through pearly gates to an exclusive community.

    The 2/3 who are sinners burning eternally in a lake of fire and brimstone.

    Big fish puking up live men.

    Seas separating for the good guys and drowning the bad guys chasing them.

    Compound walls falling at the sound of a trumpet.

    A human being turned into a pillar of salt in her tracks.

    Men living through a 1200 degree furnace.

    The earth standing still.

    Ten commandments presented to one man by god in the form of a burning bush.

    A man walking on water.

    A man/god on earth feeding five thousand plus women and children who also ate with two fish and five loaves then gathering 12 baskets of leftovers.

    Water turned into fine wine.

    Lepers healed by touching.

    Selectively raising dead men/children

    Virgin birth.

    Resurrection.


    I mean if you want to talk bull (*)(*)(*)(*) that's a major load of it!
     
  2. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Hahaaaa,...
    Poor response when you are n the other side here.

    Whatwe read is that Adam thinks the animals were created AFTER himself, but Genesis 1 said otherwise.
    Hence the ONLY logic we can use is that this Genesis 2 must be about how the universe looks to him, from his pont of vies.

    Then we read that Adam experiences "a long sleep" when we know he was getting sleep regularly.
    So the implication is that this "sleep" in evolutionary for his whole species.
    We then find that in Genesis 5:2, Adam refers to a species since the name is applied to males and females together:

    2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Here I correct you again, but you ignore his and continue as you have, just dismissing the genetic evidence for Exodus written in 1360AD and repeating your errors as if what I tell you should not even influence the blasphemy you exhibit against the Bible, based upon nonsense intellectual argument recent sources have tried to set down based upon their own ideas and criticisms

    Here, you not only deny that the serpent represents the thinking sources for humans which comes from logic and reason, but you try to say it is wrong.

    Check put the Concordance and really research these ideas.
    Stop acting so superior and correct that criticism does not matter to you.

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    Can NOT retract your nonsense in light of all this info I bring to you???
     
  4. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Haaahaaaa,...
    Sounds weird when you put the amazing tale together with ridicule the goal, while offering no ideas about the use of the Language Arts where analogy, hyperbole, parables, metaphor, similes, etc may make the read understand the message better, as all good writers are trying to do.
    Why don't you take each idea and make a thread so I can explain what the writings were trying to say and what kind of literary art was involved??


    On this thread, we are debating why the truth about a flood of Modern Man coming out-of-Africa during the time when all other men, like Neanderthals, went extinct.

    Here we see that it was technically impossible to say these men were different species than us, today.
    Nor could we use the idea that these "men" had lived not 930 "years," but 930 millennium.
    That the Genesis genealogy actually lists 22 names that compare favorably with the now extinct 22 human species our Paleontologists enumerate is no coincidence, but supporting evidence of intent.


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  5. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Where does it say that all other men were extinct?
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Huh...???
    You mean there are more than just us Modern Homo sapiens alive now??
     
  7. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    There was no mass extinction. People crossed from East Africa to the Arabian peninsula 130,000 years ago and as Arabia became more arid, they migrated north to Mesopotamia and the Levant.. So where did this mass extinction happen? It didn't happen in Europe or China or Anatolia.
     
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    I gave you sources which tell you there was amass extinction especially of Neanderthal men which started 40 millenniums ago.

    Use google...

    Neanderthal extinction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_extinction

    Wikipedia
    Neanderthal extinction refers to the sudden disappearance of Neanderthals during a time when modern humans began to emerge in Eurasia. Since the ...
    ‎Coexistence prior to extinction - ‎Rapid extinction by violence
    When the Neanderthals Disappeared | The Scientist ...
    www.the-scientist.com › ... › News & Opinion › Daily News

    The Scientist
    Aug 20, 2014 - “The results point to a mosaic pattern of Neanderthal extinction in Europe .... The biggest genetically difference between Neanderthal man and ...

    Why did the Neanderthals die out? | Science | The Guardian
    www.theguardian.com › Science › Neanderthals
    The Guardian
    Jun 2, 2013 - Neanderthal man. New research has .... "There may not have been a single cause of Neanderthal extinction," said Stringer. "They may have ...


    Neanderthals' Extinction | Popular Science
    www.popsci.com/.../how-avoid-meeting-neanderthals-fat...
    Popular Science
    May 16, 2013 - Neanderthals were humans who went extinct between 20,000 and 30,000 years ago. Though there is some debate about who these people ...
     
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    [video=youtube;aExHoH6Tlqk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aExHoH6Tlqk[/video]
     
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    A standard 365 day year has 8,760 hours. If you're dealing with 63 billion hours then 4 billion years is the wrong answer in 2015 America.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IF......… what near death experiencer Christian Andreason saw about UFO's is accurate......… then beings with technology far far far far beyond what we have achieved so far...… might just be able to so something like show a guy how to build a boat that could indeed carry two to seven pairs of all animals on time to save them from a massive flood?!

    There are huge areas with frozen wildlife in the Arctic as well as in Siberia that might fit with this event.
    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/


    http://creation.com/the-extinction-of-the-woolly-mammoth-was-it-a-quick-freeze
    .... Whatever event led to the freezing of millions of Woolly Mammoths may not have been the Flood of Noah....... this could have happened thousands of years before the flood..... but whatever happened at that time was certainly unusual. Perhaps Albert Einstein was accurate to believe his friend Immanuel Velikovsky could well be onto something with HAB Theory???!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...conservatives-worry-about-climate-change.html

    HAB Theory and getting Conservatives to worry about climate change!



    Dr. Albert Einstein took The HAB Theory very seriously:

    http://www.habtheory.com/1/100.php

    .........
     
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    Wooly mammouth's have been found everywhere except Australia... There was NO global flood.. Even Jericho has NO flood sediment.
     
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    (Newser) – Prehistoric humans may have sliced up woolly mammoths for dinner after stealing them from lions. Markings on a mammoth fossil show evidence of both human and lion involvement, reports the BBC.

    Researchers examined an "exquisitely preserved" carcass of a young woolly mammoth that still has its teeth, tusks, and strawberry blonde hair.

    The ancient animal, nicknamed Yuka, was frozen in a Siberian ice cliff for about 10,000 years.

    Deep cuts on the body indicate a lion attack near the time of death, while a number of serrations, possibly inflicted by a saw-like tool, point to the involvement of humans. "If it happened near the time of death then it means Yuka is a very important specimen as there are not many [mammoths] that show human interactions," says one of the scientists.

    http://www.newser.com/story/143386/early-humans-found-unique-way-to-get-woolly-mammoth.html
     
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    I don't really blame you for being skeptical but..... one source of information that I personally found very difficult to refute was the Edgar Cayce chronology of events.

    http://www.edgarcayce.org/_AncientMysteriesTemp/noah'sflood.html

    Edgar Cayce has four consecutive creation stories.... and three separate Adam's????!

    I am in no position to rule this out as a possibility.
     
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    Edgar Casey? Good grief.

    Humans were eating Wooly Mammouths 10,000 years ago.. Let's get real.
     
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    Actually....... I have read about ten or more books about his readings and if I remember correctly he would agree with that statement.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce03.html
    Edgar Cayce on Human Origins
     
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    ...yeah,...
    His math was way off.
     
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    Interesting,...But what about your errors on the meaning of Mercury/snakes/caedues,... the evidence of extinction of Neanderthal man starting 40,000 years ago, and the genetics which says ONLY Jewish priests show a common father who lived around 1360BC???

    You say stuff, but when evidence comes around, you ignire i and repeat the ies without mentioning this things which doubt your position.

    What is your motive to try and speak against the Bible in spite the issues are at least open???
    Are you muslim?
    Gay?
    A single mother?
    What?
     
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    Cayce was a fraud... Some of his "prophesies" have just been vague enough to fool the gullible.. He never studied medicine... He read medical books by sleeping with them under his pillow.. and he got it all wrong. Homeopathy was the medicine of rascals.

    What happened to Atlantis and California falling into the Pacific.
     
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    Cadeusus comes from the Greek Hermes.. and there is tons of evidence for snake cults not only in the ME and India, but worldwide.

    There is NO common DNA among Jewish priests. No evidence for Exodus or Noah or Abraham or Moses....

    You are preoccupied with the supernatural and torturing scripture or placing it in some futuristic context to look for the meaning.. and you know just about nothing about History or Judaism.

    I think you drive people away from faith, by being so ridiculous and dishonest.

    I am not a Muslim, nor gay .. nor a single mother.. although I am sure you wish I were.. anything to prop up your judgmental woman hating.
     
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    Evidence for Noah is now GENETICALLY established as we KNOW that all men today are related to just one common father who lived 40,000 years ago, as I have been telling you.

    I will not repeat the genetic evidence for one common father of all living priests among the Jews of today, but you have ignored this, and repeated the falsehood again here.

    You are hung up on the Greek symbol for medicine we use today, and just ignore that the snake on the pole is the same idea used by Moses.

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    ..."emblem of cunning and wisdom"...
     
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    There is NO such genetic evidence for all Jewish priests being descended from Aaron.. None.. How could you be so foolish?
     
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    What about the other stuff you make up as answers like the snake, which I said was the sign of wisdom for medicine centers in Sinai, during the days of Moses???

    You doubted that, and used some nonsense about the Messenger from the Gods, Mercury, as of to explain that one away.
    But even the messenger of the Gods was an intellect and god of Logic and Knowledge:

    "Mercury, much like the winged messenger of the gods, comes in on feather-light wings and commands us to speak. Communication, intellect and awareness are all within Mercury's domain, as are logic and reasoning, our manner of thinking, and how we create and express our thought processes."
    http://www.astrology.com/article/planets-mercury.html


    Do you retract what you said about the snake???
     
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    You can't retract archeology that predates Genesis by a thousands years........ Snake cults dominated Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Levant, the Arabian Peninsula and the Indus Valley.

    The dueling snakes story in Pharaoh's court is preposterous..........
     
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    Not if technology far far far far far beyond what we humans have developed already existed millennia ago!

    We have special effects people who could probably create two large snakes and have one swallow the other ones.......... if humans can do something...… then God or angels or aliens or some other superior culture could certainly arrange something like this in order to teach us something........

    We humans could soon be facing ethical questions that would remind us much of Genesis...… and the situation could be androids or robotic technology...… that is approaching human level intelligence...… or higher?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...elligent-androids-how-could-we-test-them.html

    If we invent super intelligent androids... how could we test them?

    Might we perhaps invent some sort of virtual reality holographic environment where the attitude and character of an android can be tested to see if they will behave in a manner that is altruistic and humble?

    The analogy to Adam, Eve, Lucifer and his angels should be obvious!
     
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