God works in mysterious ways

If there is no God orchestrating the universe, than everything around us is just by accident.

 

LOL - not even close. For action there is a reaction. Evolution occurs because of changes in the enviroment. This is not an accident.

Not to mention there are many natural forces in the universe at play.

 

And Who created those forces? Who causes the action and reaction? They just "happen"?

 

What kind of climatic changes are you referencing?

 

There is no creation. Take gravity for example. Gravity is simply matter bending space and time, causing all lesser matter to either fall into the heavier matter or rotate around the matter. Simple Physics.

Look at every galaxy. At the heart of every galaxy there is a black hole with enough matter to make all the other matter with in that galaxy rotate around that black hole.

This is my opinion, but eventually, enough black holes will merge into one. This will stop the expansion of the universe and start a retraction that eventually end in a big crutch, only for the universe to be reborn again with another big bang.

Its physics, not a 'who'.

 

Yes a person can.

 

You mean the primordial soup during the RNA world. There was no one to pass words around.
Let's for one second consider the god thing. Adam. Adam and Eve then had three children Cain, Abel and Seth. Okay Cain killed Abel I guess Eve was pretty busy making the rest of the world with her sons. Seems like you have a god that is big on supporting incest and perversion. Yuck. I will take the soup thanks and the RNA world view.

 

Who would have created this god?

 

Sounds more like a fanciful imagination.

 

From RNA to incest? That is a hell of a leap.

Besides, evolution favors incest - it leads to genetic mutation - the engine of evolution, so why not do it more?

I don't suppose you have heard of mitochondrial Eve have you?

Nope, you choose the view the Bible in literal terms - like any good fundie - gotcha.

 

How doe sthat have nay bearing on whether God was created? You can't even produce evidence that it does or does not exist, and you are already concluding that it is a foregone conclusion to leap right over the debate ... to do what exactly?

 

Oh so you just pick and choose from your bible what you like and what you don't. I guess with an imaginary god you can do that. Sounds like religion. Some you take literally and some you make up as you go along.

 

I you forgetting that you are the one that believes in the fairy tale and not me. Did you read the post I responded to or did you just hop in thinking that unnecessary?
Supposedly you have this god that with no rhyme or reason just is and creates all this stuff of nothing I asked who created the god? I know what did the imagination of many warped minds that have been deluded into foolishness. That's what created the god. Delusions of schizophrenics.

 

Are you for real? Do you think incest is the only way that leads to genetic mutation?

mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam lived at-least 10,000 years apart. Go learn your facts before spewing your nonsense.

 

Oh, and you can twist any fact into an insult, eh? Sounds like an atheist.

Its pretty simple, if one uses their brain. There is a kernal of truth to just about every old oral history and tradition, and indeed, much of the Bible is not written as it would be if it were a listing of verified fact - particularly with old testament parables. That is not so with the synoptic gospels, which clearly have the indications of hostorical documentation.

A wise person looks for the truth of them and doesn't get stuck stuck on their own preconceptions.

After all, it appears to be atheists more than anyone else out there, that demand that the Bible be interpreted a certain way - a way that is at odd with just about every Seminary out there - and a way that makes it look as absurd as impossible.

Unofrtunately, as is usally the case, we Christains accept our doctrine, you atheists twist and insult, and then cal yourselves intelligent to be unable to figure out what everyone else has around you.

Its amazing how the willfully ignorant consider themsleves both intelligent and better than everyone? Usually victims to boot.

 

Haven't actually read the bible have you? It clearly talks about there being different people beside just 3 sons. But go ahead and keep repeating the stuff someone fed you

 

DNA and Mutations

Here ya go Neutral - you should educate yourself on DNA and mutations.

 

No one. You see man doesn't understand everything in the universe or how it works. Science shows us new stuff all the time. We have only begun to understand the mysteries.

 

Very good - here is the 'truth' on jc:

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Yep, you are no fairy tale, you are real.

The question is whether anyone, yourself included, shoud worship you?

All you are doing is looking for a reason to deny. You don't need one to deny - just deny. Stop pretending its logic that drives you to do it though, because everyone with even half a brain acknowledges that the evidence for God is inconclusive.

Yet you, in defiance of that consensus, choose to believe that the evidence is indeed conclusive - that EVERYONE else is not just wrong, but delusional.

Where is your evidence then? To back up such a angry rant?

Oh, right, its in the closet next to orange dragon.

Belief in God without full and conclusive evidence? Eh.

Believeing that everyone with a different opinion is just wrong, stupid, and sub-human because you say so? That is just straight being a prick.

Its also modern atheism. Apparently, a bunch of jerks got together and decided they weren't going to take it anymore gosh dern it! We'll show them! They had better listen to us or we will ... band together a be really big jerks about it! That'll show 'em.

Nice religion you atheists have there. You probably shouldn't call it atheism - it would be better labelled malcontentism.

 

A person looking for an imaginary crutch is not a wise person.

 

In the beginning Adam Eve and the sons. Who are these others and what god did they come and the bible reference as well.

Eve was screwing the kids and the kids were screwing each other. Perversion in no small dose.

 

And your imaginary friend made all this. LOL that is so funny. You post childish fairy tale nonsense and you want to be taken seriously by an adult. It won't happen.

 

Why would anyone except a weak minded follower want to worship anyone. Those that can think for themselves don't worship anything. There is no need. We do not need scapegoats and crutches to get around in life. We take actual responsibility for our lives unlike believers who have the fall guy.

 

What does this mean ? How do you take responsibility for your life as opposed to me?