Good Grief, a 7 year old transgender with transgender "dad"

If some of you are claiming gender identity is a mental disorder, then I would think you would have to be open to the liklihood this child has it (the mental disorder...from genetics), and it isn't her environment afterall or parental influence. Is that what you think?

 

this thread will get derailed quickly with gay marriage. My position is that govt has no busienss at all in marriage and that includes male/female. If you want to own property with anther person, get a contract.

Why should I be able to simply add another person to my insurance policy because the govt deems me to be married? If I'm single, and am willing to pay the insurance premium, why can't I add my brother and sister to the med policy? Why can't my siblings get my SS benefits for x period of time the same way a wife or husband can?

no sir, it's all messed up and adding another race/gender and calling it gay won't fix the inequity.

now, back to homosexuals putting it out in public, that is where you are wrong. If you go to get a drivers license how does the person know how you have sex? You must tell them because Lord knows you walk and talk just like every other human. Having sex differently than most does not change you from being a man or woman.

Back to the topic at hand.

So, we've danced and skirted around the real question; is being atransgender a mental imbalance or disorder? If I like to cut myself I would be told that I have some type of disorder because I'm not behaving like the majority.

 

Look on the bright side, now both of em can join the military !!!

Im sure theyll save us...

 

It is, by definition, a mental disorder.

CMF is saying that the child should be placed (yes by CPS) with another family member that is mentally stable. There is a father, a real father, out there somewhere. There are probably grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. "The system" is the last resort.

 

After. Dr. Keith Ablow was on TV the other night talking about this. He said that studies have shown that the surgery does nothing to improve the individual's self loathing and does not make the person happier.

 

Well beleiving such a thing in the wake of finding out it isn't what it is advertised to be seems silly.

 

As indicated in many posts above, the child is far too young to be considering sexuality or "gender identity" , it clearly is adult influenced.

 

Exactly. What you have here is a mother who wanted to have something in common with her child. There is nothing wrong with that in and of itself. But if you are a mother who thinks she is a father.. and the way you go about finding commonality is to, from the age of 18 months, impress upon your female child that she is actually a boy trapped in a girls body... there is a huge issue. Those are not the actions of a stable mind. Those are not the decisions of a woman/mother with a rational thought process. So yes.. it is safe to assume she is psychologically damaged. Is does she have a genetic disorder? Doubtful. More likely she has deep seeded personal issues that manifest as transgender.

Whether it is self loathing, being raised in a home where women are considered lesser than men, etc. There are many life experiences that could lead an unstable mind to want to be someone other than what one is in a physical sense. I had a client who wanted to be a girl because his father didn't molest girls.. only boys.. so it was a safety issue for him from early abuse. There are many many more children who experience the same type of abuse yet the issues manifest in other ways. Obesity, promiscuity, dating much older partners, drugs, alcohol, self mutilation, agoraphobia, etc. We all process information differently so we won't all come to the same conclusions or develop the same issues from similar situations.

The bottom line is, it really doesn't matter what is wrong with the mother. All that matters is that what her particular brand of issue, combined with her own selfish unmet needs, has led her to do to her child. It is wrong. It is abuse. It shouldn't have been allowed in the first place.

 

Believe it or not we agree on this issue. Civil unions should be the law of the land and if anyone wants to be married, regardless of sex, it should be a personal thing between them with no government intervention or perks what so ever and no legal action necessary to dissolve the union.

That is what should be.. however that is not what is. As it stands, marriage is the law of the land. Since that is the case on most states, and since the state and federal government provide special protections and perks based upon marriage, under the equal protections clause of the bill of rights marriage cannot be confined to only straight people. Gays getting married does not in any way trample on the rights of anyone else, therefore there is truly no reason to deny it to gays.

"Marriage is a sacred institution between a millionaire man and whichever of the 20 hookers he chooses.. on a prime time reality show... for the sake of network ratings, tabloid fodder... and the newlyweds 15 minutes of fame."

Seriously.. if THAT can be a legal marriage.. why not two gay adults who actually love one another?

 

imitation, imprinting, bonding with screwed up parent. Backfire in the long run.

 

then how could this "dad" want to inflict that upon his/her child?

 

Exactly.


This child is now 72 times more likely to kill themselves for the experience.

Because it has nothing to do with the child. Because this person is obsessed with themselves, and projecting themselves onto the child to validate their own issues.

My cat thinks he's a person.

 

What is this baby thinking? Try and come up with a thought bubble.



I come up with "I wish daddy was here."

That is my projection based on my own need to be available to my own daughter. (that is just an image I found on google)












The correct answer is, you have no earthly idea.

The wrong answer is "I was supposed to be born with a penis."

 

"I wish my boogers had sugar on them."

 

^^^^ You guys don't realize this.. but his cat is the one who keeps typing this.

 

I started snorting sugar for that very reason. It was the beginning of the end.

 

Then, if it is a mental disorder, the child may have it too. Some mental disorders are genetic. I'm wondering if you think that is a possibility? If so, then it's possible it is not parent-influenced.

Also, if its a mental disorder, then this whole thing wouldn't be the parent's fault, right? Also, if a mental disorder, then that parent (while may lose her child to CPS), would be under certain protections...not to mention her treatment should then maybe be covered by insurance.

I'm still skeptical it is a mental disorder.

 

That is an excellent question!

 

that's assuming that the child is saying these things of her own free will. At 18 months, what does she really know? If a mental disorder, then it would be the mother who thinks she is the father who has the disorder. THat again would beg to ask; should the child be left with that parent?

 

I don't know, I have been told these are just meaningless blobs of tissue in the abortion forum. Probably incapable of thought as just a blob of meaningless cells.

 

Cheese dip!!!!

 

Are you serious? This thread just dropped 20 pages.

You can't catch GID.

A mental disorder is ALL it is. It is it's ONLY MEDICAL CLASSIFICATION.

Münchausen Syndrome by Proxy is also a mental disorder. You can't catch it either. They can't have their kids either.

 

Treatment should absolutely be covered by insurance.

Treatment is not surgery. It doesn't work, and costs gazillions of dollars.

Treatment is therapy.

 

then what if the specialists suggested a sex change surgery because the patient absolutely feels it necessary? Should insurance cover that? Should it cover it for the 7 year old?

 

Just trying to have a discussion...no harm there, right? Some psychologists believe genes could be a cause of a mental disorder. So, in this news story, you claim that they have a mental disorder and the parent believes their child has the same traits...so do you think its possible that this child also has a mental disorder caused by genes?

See, I don't. So, I'm just trying to follow the logic that you can't have it both ways. You can't claim its a mental disorder and then exclude the possibility that the kid has the same disorder. Not when, say depression, is thought to be strongly related to genes. It is actually easier to believe gender identity is more strongly related to genes than depression.

Or is "mental disorder" applied way too losely to too many things we don't see as "normal"? I don't know. I just don't want this personal situation to subject other kids at school to abnormal behavior. That I do know for sure. That is much more complicated if this parent can claim their child has a mental disorder. Then, they are almost certainly legally obligated to make accomadations for this child. Follow my logic? Sorry if I'm not explaining well.