Dismiss Notice
Thanks for being a member of our community. Please donate toward site expenses if you can.

Gun stores in Maine see brisk business in wake of Lewiston shootings

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Wild Bill Kelsoe, Oct 29, 2023.

Page 1 of 9
  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,583
    Likes Received:
    15,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Every one of the victims was unarmed. They thought, "it could never happen here". Between that and the fact that both locations were gun free zones, it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I bet those "no guns allowed" signs will be getting ignored a lot in the future.

     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Oct 29, 2023
    #1
    Ddyad, JET3534, Eleuthera and 3 others like this.
  2. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,873
    Likes Received:
    74,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    The NRA has done a real job on the American public convincing them that they are defenceless without a gun. It seems to have embedded a belief that death is inevitable without a gun on you 24/7. As a member of a nation where the only guns we see are police and security and no one thinks of having to go armed to leave the house I do feel sorry for you
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 29, 2023
    #2
    Derideo_Te, bx4, cd8ed and 1 other person like this.
  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,583
    Likes Received:
    15,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The victims in Lewiston were literally defenseless.

    What defense against an active shooter do you recommend?
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Oct 29, 2023
    #3
    ButterBalls and Eleuthera like this.
  4. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,626
    Likes Received:
    17,442
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Have laws that prevent him from buying a gun.

    With that, he'll never become an active shooter.
     
    Arkanis, Oct 29, 2023
    #4
    bx4 likes this.
  5. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,626
    Likes Received:
    17,442
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So mass shooters aren't responsible for their actions?
     
    Arkanis, Oct 29, 2023
    #5
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,583
    Likes Received:
    15,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There are laws that prevent him from buying and possessing a gun. They didn't work.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Oct 29, 2023
    #6
    Pieces of Malarkey, Josh77, Irie and 3 others like this.
  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,583
    Likes Received:
    15,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Are the people responsible for enforcing laws that are supposed to stop mass shootings for not enforcing the laws on the books?
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Oct 29, 2023
    #7
    Pieces of Malarkey, ButterBalls and Turtledude like this.
  8. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,626
    Likes Received:
    17,442
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So we must remove this law?

    How many more guns do we need to add to society to make this country safer?

    The US has the worst record of any advanced country on this planet when it comes to mass shootings and one of the highest rate of gun homicide.

    There is something to be proud of.
     
    Arkanis, Oct 29, 2023
    #8
  9. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,583
    Likes Received:
    15,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Our homicide rate is going down, some first world country's homicide rates are going up.

    All things considered, you damn right that's something to be proud of.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Oct 29, 2023
    #9
    ButterBalls likes this.
  10. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2022
    Messages:
    6,622
    Likes Received:
    5,462
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When you totally mentally Ill, yes. On the other hand, they never get out of a mental institution or prison, no matter what. Life means life, no equivocations.
     
    JohnHamilton, Oct 29, 2023
    #10
    ButterBalls and Wild Bill Kelsoe like this.
  11. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,626
    Likes Received:
    17,442
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You don't know what you're talking about.

    homicide rate:

    Canada: 2.1
    France: 1.1
    Germany: 0.8
    UK: 1.2
    Spain: 0.6
    Italy: 0.5
    Japan: 0.2
    Australia: 0.7
    Sweden: 1.1
    Norway: 0.5
    Austria: 0.7

    USA: 6.8

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Explain to me again how guns make this country safer....
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2023
    Arkanis, Oct 29, 2023
    #11
    Derideo_Te and cd8ed like this.
  12. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,699
    Likes Received:
    38,035
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well in a gun fight that pretty much the point, unless looking all mean faced and yelling shoo Mr shooter SHOOOOO will scare the gunman off :roflol:
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2023
    ButterBalls, Oct 29, 2023
    #12
    Eleuthera and Wild Bill Kelsoe like this.
  13. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,583
    Likes Received:
    15,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The UK homicide rate rose 23% in 2022...

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula... 696 victims of,place to limit social contact.

    United States homicide rate in 2022 drops 6%...

    https://www.statista.com/chart/31062/us-homicide-rate/

    Killings in The United States dropping at an historic rate...

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/ne...ic-rate-will-anyone-notice-essential-politics

    So, yeah, I do know what I'm talking about.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Oct 29, 2023
    #13
    JET3534 and ButterBalls like this.
  14. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,699
    Likes Received:
    38,035
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Clearly the best way to avoid AMERICAS dangers is to move to a country less dangerous.. Because I promise you nothing is going to change in our lifetime.. So why folks would endure such a lifestyle when they can simply move is a mystery to me ;)
     
    ButterBalls, Oct 29, 2023
    #14
    JET3534, roorooroo, Turtledude and 1 other person like this.
  15. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,626
    Likes Received:
    17,442
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, you don't know what you're talking about.

    You are proud that the homicide rate here has fallen by 12% while it remains on average 6x higher than in any Western country.

    It's a shame.

    But I'm still going to ask my question again:

    How do guns make this country safer?
     
    Arkanis, Oct 29, 2023
    #15
  16. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,626
    Likes Received:
    17,442
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What makes this country so dangerous compare to others ?
     
    Arkanis, Oct 29, 2023
    #16
  17. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,583
    Likes Received:
    15,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, I'm glad that the homicide rate is going down. Who wouldn't be?
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Oct 29, 2023
    #17
    ButterBalls and Turtledude like this.
  18. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,699
    Likes Received:
    38,035
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Guns :roll:
     
    ButterBalls, Oct 29, 2023
    #18
  19. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,583
    Likes Received:
    15,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Those countries are mostly white and don't have 30 million illegal aliens.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Oct 29, 2023
    #19
    JET3534, roorooroo, Turtledude and 1 other person like this.
  20. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,189
    Likes Received:
    33,087
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You should thank your president
     
    cd8ed, Oct 29, 2023
    #20
    Bowerbird and Arkanis like this.
  21. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,626
    Likes Received:
    17,442
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Arkanis, Oct 29, 2023
    #21
    Bowerbird likes this.
  22. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,873
    Likes Received:
    74,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Mate not that different - convict colony remember? In fact we have a LOT of similarities and our mass shooting rates were mirroring yours until 1996
    upload_2023-10-30_13-8-47.jpeg
    the yellow line is Aus
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2023
    Bowerbird, Oct 29, 2023
    #22
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  23. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,764
    Likes Received:
    21,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    what does NRA hate have to do with this thread? I feel sorry for those who are so upset with American freedom
     
    Turtledude, Oct 29, 2023
    #23
    JET3534, ButterBalls, FatBack and 1 other person like this.
  24. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,764
    Likes Received:
    21,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    have you compared the rate of white violence in the USA (the most heavily armed major ethnic group in the world) compared to white rates of violence in nanny state countries.
     
    Turtledude, Oct 29, 2023
    #24
    JET3534, ButterBalls, FatBack and 1 other person like this.
  25. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,764
    Likes Received:
    21,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    that's as silly as saying if we have laws against people buying fentanyl we wouldn't have 74,000 deaths from Fentanyl overdoses each year.
     
    Turtledude, Oct 29, 2023
    #25
    FreshAir, ButterBalls and roorooroo like this.
Page 1 of 9

Share This Page