Gun stores in Maine see brisk business in wake of Lewiston shootings

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Sometimes, then again I have no medical training. I'm simply trying to fill the gaps you are struggling with, that being free mental evaluation and help.
     
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    Yes I am struggling with the idea that any medical help in America is free.
    I wrongly imagined that Americans hate socialism.
     
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    No but I recall an economic based article that criminals' demand for guns is much less influenced by laws than those who aren't using them for illicit purposes
     
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    Well you could call 911 or head to a local clinic and tell them that your thinking about killing people, I promise you they will give you all the attention it deserves at no cost to you ;)
     
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    This is quoted as a rate per 100,000 population, it is not a total number comparison. It is relevant.
     
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    your posts often do not distinguish between legal and illegal.
     
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    What the OP once again leaves out, the attacker had a rifle, and unless one has a rifle themselves, the one with the handgun goes head-to-head with a hand gun is going to lose. So now everyone needs to walk around with a rifle.

    How many people like to do business where one needs to carry a rifle at all times.
     
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    You do understand that your response does nothing to establish a trend, right?
     
  9. philosophical

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    That's cutting things a bit fine I would think.
    If the argument with regard to spree killings is that it isn't guns that kill, but people, I can see the reasoning. However the discourse the quickly shifts to if it is the person who is the problem, what happens if their spree is because of a florid mental breakdown?
    Add to that what we know about medical insurance and the cost of healthcare, it is possible that the ill person has not been able to access proper intervention well before they dramatically break down.
    That has to be a factor lined up against all the victims, as well as the argument about the right to bear arms.
    If there is an epidemic of mentally ill people whose condition leads to such tragedy, and the individuals can't access decent help, does that mean that American society simply has to stomach spree killings as the price you pay for the second amendment?
     
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    No. Explain that to me.
     
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    that/s that always or usually true in urban environments
     
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    LMAO.....
     
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    I don't think anyone needs the NRA to tell them that unarmed people don't have a chance. A history book is all anyone needs.
     
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    The government is wrong.
     
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    People in the US get shot at all the time, as you like to tell us.
    How do people defend themselves from this, if not with a gun?
     
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    Correct.
    Aussies have been pacified.
     
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    Does the comparison include the amount of drugs pouring into each country?
     
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    Be that as it may, I'm willing to bet a stack that if any person walked in to a clinic or ER and told them they were having an urge to murder a bunch of people, they'd get all the free medical attention they could hope for!
     
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    So we can’t take them from the crazy….
     
  20. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Lock up the crazies. Problem solved.
     
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    assisted suicide would help some too, as many of these people are suicidal and this is a way to force others to kill them or get it where they have no choice but to kill themselves - by legalizing it, could try to help them and if they still want to kill themselves, make it easier
     
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    Actually, the murder rate in The United States has gone down since two years ago...

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/ne...ic-rate-will-anyone-notice-essential-politics

    I'm 2019-20 Australias murder rate increased by 16%...

    https://bond.edu.au/news/homicide-on-rise-australia-should-we-be-concerned

    If the Aussies had it all figured out and gun control was the miracle cure, the murder rate would never increase.
     
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    Being crazy isn’t illegal
     
  24. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    That right there totally destroys your gun control argument.

    Just admit it: all you want is to ban guns. You don't care about saving lives.
     
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    Suicide is ok, as long as you don't use a gun?...lol
     
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