Here is the problem with China on CV19

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The events of the last few years are completely lost on you? But wait, I understand, you are believing your own distortions instead of reality again. Pity.
     
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    That has been the DNC plan of attack and much of the American electorate has very little faith in the election process anymore.
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If people like most Republicans have very little faith in something it can't be all bad.

    To clarify my previous post I find my ancestry (Proud Scots btw though American-born) to be a completely irrelevant question Unlike many conservatives I am intellectually American through and through. I find it impossible to let my background completely override my sense of right and wrong and am instead compelled to let most of my actions be determined like Clark Kent on the bases of what I see to be Truth, Justice, and the American Way
     
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    Values to live by but Truth and Justice are determined by where they come from today and Americans have forgotten their Way.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Asked by a poster with a Russian name.

    No sir, my entire family history can be summed up in England then in the 1600s from America.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you constantly been on the side of the Democrats who have evolved into socialists?
     
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    I'm thinking we are vastly underestimating what our enemy is capable of. Now we are shifting to support of a lab leak. Even Jon Stewart. Ok. But now we should ask who runs that lab. The Peoples Liberation Army. Not exactly a trustworthy group.
     
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    Superman is a socialist? Perry White is going to be pissed.
    Why do you think it is important we know this?
     
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    To properly gage the threat level.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And then just worry about it?
     
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    To decide what kind of response to employ.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    That seems reasonable but appears belied by what seems a tendency to adjudge the Chinese guilty before you even know what evidence is against them
     
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    3.8 million dead people.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    FINALLY, you admit that people were dying.
     
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    I said they weren't?
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Many conservatives have.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you think Biden is doing something new? What would that be?
    Biden has always had the use of the Trump vaccines. I call them the Trump vaccines because Trump caused regulations to vanish that blocked us all from getting the Vaccines developed by firms. Firms have the labs so naturally they made the vaccines. Trump pre-purchased them. Don't you believe that also sped things up?
     
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    I'm not all that many.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You're enough:p

    (not really, there's never enough of you)
     
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    Because imo, due to Chinese concealment of the origins of this virus, we now must take actions to discover it ourselves. Some of those actions (cyber/intel/propaganda) will violate China's sovereignty. It is important to be clear to your adversaries on what constitutes a threat, and what you are going to do about it. We should tell the CCP that their actions regarding the origins of this virus pose an unacceptable risk to us. We do not intend to attack you based on this risk, but your actions have forced us to violate your sovereignty in very specific ways in order to determine how Covid came to be.
     
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    My understanding is we already were monitoring China's actions at this lab in a spirit of International Cooperation to keep tabs on dangerous diseases until Trump decided that anything having to do with International Cooperation, particularly with the Chinese, was beneath America and besides the money being wasted on studying diseases, was far more needed on building the Great Barrier of Bigotry on our Southern border
     

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