How Christian Truth Became Hate Speech

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  1. GrayMan

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    As far as we know? Do you give wine to an alcoholic because he is thirsty?
     
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    Yes he would.
     
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    How about cutting the rest of us some slack?
     
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    LOL! So, can you also love Pelosi or Biden, but hate their sins? Come on, dig deep.

    BTW: Both Pelosi and Biden are more practicing Christians than Trump ever was.
     
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    i will agree on that, new testament equals love, old testament is the vindictive god...to simplify...the founding fathers were mostly enlighten individuals and certainly not anything comparable to the politized christian churchs of the RW...more like liberals
     
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    If you take out a business license, we expect you to serve some classes of customers who might otherwise have difficulty dining out, renting a hotel room, etc.
     
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    As long as you stay out of our faces with this stuff, say what you want.
     
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    no, he would not. He never participated in a sin even when he associated with sinners. We can do that as well, supporting people in need without actually participating in their sin. We can love the drunkard without providing him or her alcohol for their party or celebration
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    Yes, I can.
    No, they are not.
     
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    I already gave you all all that you get.
     
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    There is a difference between serving them at a restaurant or hotel or selling them gas and tires or groceries, etc. and being expected to create expression or speech that is in disagreement with what they believe. These people didn’t refuse to sell gays a cake already in the bakery or flowers already arranged in the florists shop. They simply would not use their talent and expression to create something new for a specific purpose which violates their beliefs.
     
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    People are simply trying to live their lives according to their beliefs using the free exercise there of rights that they have, and are not in anyone’s face
     
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    So is your argument that since two or three vendors didn't want to participate in gay weddings, that all gay weddings
    should be outlawed? That would be a real silly-assed argument if you are.
     
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    Because the saved individuals within said denomination would not believe that unless they had been shown no other light on the issue. Those that had would be opposing that and trying to reform and failing that would create a more biblical branch of the denomination
     
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    So you're going to fall back on the "No True Scotsman" defense? Dude, please, you can't get more silly than that.
     
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    I would never with hold regular food and beverages or general living needs from other sinners. I would not provide them with the specific tools needed to engage in a specific sin. I have no doubt that I have fed and given beverages to gay people or provided them with bedding and clothing. I never ask for the orientation of anyone I give charity to. I can provide for people and can support selling people daily items regardless of the situation. Still not the same as creating things for a celebration and party that is for something we know to be evil and wrong.
     
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    So you agree that if the Methodist Church wants to have legal gay wedding ceremonies, then you have no right to stick your nose in
    their business. Good.
     
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    And by "we" you mean "you" - cause you sure as hell don't speak for all Christians, dude.
     
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    All the self-proclaimed Christians who get off on the "love the sinner" thingy should be a hell of a lot more concerned about obese people, obviously you love the sinner, but hate their fatness.

    There the ones that will bring 'God's wrath" down on America, yes?
    Start telling them.:roflol:

    He did it once.
    • Gluttony, or “excess of food,” led to a curse of utter destruction upon Sodom, the standard example of God’s wrath and judgment ( Ezekiel 16:49 ).
     
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    You funny!
     
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    Need Christ for exactly what ?
     
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    Right, like the "advice" you give never mentions biblical scripture, Jesus. God, eternal damnation vs salvation yada-yada.
     
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    So how do you do that without being there?
     
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    Sorry, no difference.
     
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