How is the South inherently 'racist'?

the problem is that your response was pure malarkey

 

Move the goal posts again huh? YOU said...

Now you claim its all about feelings and much more than just stats?

You have recieved FBI stats that says the rest of the country is much more riddled with racism than the south. What kind of "irrefuatable" stat do you want? Does the NAACP have to come out and tell you its not racist anymore?

 

I've tried to have a reasonable conversation about this. But now here is where I stand:

YOU show me where and how the "South" has changed significantly... and I'll entertain your suggestions.

I suppose I'm simply NOT the one to talk to about this.

Peace.

 

I'm open to learning more about this, but I'm certainly not going buy what is being related here in this thread; it's a tainted mess.

Hopefully, the "South" is becoming as 'diversified' as some would support here... that would be a good thing.

 

It was enough to cause the parties to switch....

 

You do realize that the standard of living is more expensive in Massachusetts than Mississippi, right? Blacks that have succeeded and make good money have moved out of Mississippi, but many are there because they can't afford to go anywhere else. That's no sign that they are being treated fairly.

 

Your dodge was noted. So what is the difference between the Southern church you singled out and the one Obama attended for twenty years?

 

What an intellectually lame argument. Face it you can't prove your assertions. "Well everyone knows so nah nah nah" is what I expect from a kindergarten debating team.

Lets see am actual basis for your claim not dubious at best claims.

 

What part of the country is more diversified as far as black and white?

 

ROFL why would the racist segregationists switch to the party that defeated them on the Civil Rights issue? The move from Democrat to Republican happened long after the Civil Rights issue was settled law and had to do with other issues.

 

your bs is irrelevant

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

ROFL, anything else?

 

If you choose to think that we are still living in the post-Civil War, Reconstruction period, that is your prerogative, and evidently nothing any of us can say can fast-forward your mindset into the Twenty-First Century. Talk about plantation owners? Are you serious? Why don't we as easily go back and talk about feudal lords of the medieval times, Roman Emperors, or other examples of despots throughout the centuries...?

But, here in the 21st Century, our reality, would YOU like to tell us all why, to this very day, we STILL have Reverse Discrimination against White people in the form of "affirmative action"? Want to touch that with a ten-foot pole? Want to tell us how long a White guy would remain unmolested if he went into a Black neighborhood and started hitting on Black women there...? Your colleague, dujac, was making much of the example of how a Black guy was killed in the mid-1950's because he was hitting on a White woman -- but how about today, if the situation were reversed...? Got anything to say about that? If you don't, don't worry about it, because liberals never do....

Oh, and by the way, we are a nation and a society of laws! As a kid in high school, I remember when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 became law... a glorious, wonderful day. It didn't happen overnight, but everything changed after that... including the adoption of Reverse Discrimination as a law about ten years later. So, we should be content to replace one form of racial discrimination with another form of the same damn thing?! Why?

 

Whatever.

Just SHOW in some REAL way that the "South" does not have the longest way to go, when it comes to ethnic relations. Anything other than that is just 'noise' to me.

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... but as real as can be.

SHOW myself and the rest of America, how racist the "South" isn't (keep tying).

 

That is impossible when you wont accept numbers and only wait for the NAACP to tell you when to "feel good" about the south again. Crime rate of white on blacks is down. Rape of blacks by whites is down. Hiring and manager promotions of minorities are up. Neighborhood desegregation by CHOICE is high. I mean really, what would you actually like to see, a stat saying "whites open doors for blacks in the south on the rise' or something?

As it has been explained many times, you cant prove a negative. But since you can prove a positive and you keep saying the south is racist, we are still waiting on how you come up with that feeling of yours.

 

Your dodge was noted. So what is the difference between the Southern church you singled out and the one Obama attended for twenty years?

 

it's like the difference between black and white

stop asking irrelevant questions

 

Yeah get the facts straight
http://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-the-neocons-and-nixons-southern-strategy-512

"Now, as a co-architect of the Nixon strategy that gave the GOP a lock on the White House for a quarter century, let me say that Kristol’s opportunism is matched only by his ignorance. Richard Nixon kicked off his historic comeback in 1966 with a column on the South (by this writer) that declared we would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states rights, human rights, small government and a strong national defense, and leave it to the “party of Maddox, Mahoney and Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice.”

In that ’66 campaign, Nixon – who had been thanked personally by Dr. King for his help in passing the Civil Rights Act of 1957 – endorsed all Republicans, except members of the John Birch Society.

In 1968, Nixon chose Spiro Agnew for vice president. Why? Agnew had routed George (“Your home is your castle!&#8221 Mahoney for governor of Maryland but had also criticized civil-rights leaders who failed to condemn the riots that erupted after the assassination of King. The Agnew of 1968 was both pro-civil rights and pro-law and order.

When the ’68 campaign began, Nixon was at 42 percent, Humphrey at 29 percent, Wallace at 22 percent. When it ended, Nixon and Humphrey were tied at 43 percent, with Wallace at 13 percent. The 9 percent of the national vote that had been peeled off from Wallace had gone to Humphrey.

Between 1969 and 1974, Nixon – who believed that blacks had gotten a raw deal in America and wanted to extend a helping hand:

* raised the civil rights enforcement budget 800 percent;

* doubled the budget for black colleges;

* appointed more blacks to federal posts and high positions
than any president, including LBJ;

* adopted the Philadelphia Plan mandating quotas for blacks
in unions, and for black scholars in colleges and
universities;

* invented “Black Capitalism” (the Office of Minority Business
Enterprise), raised U.S. purchases from black businesses
from $9 million to $153 million, increased small business
loans to minorities 1,000 percent, increased U.S. deposits
in minority-owned banks 4,000 percent;

* raised the share of Southern schools that were
desegregated from 10 percent to 70 percent. Wrote the
U.S. Commission on Civil Rights in 1975, “It has only been
since 1968 that substantial reduction of racial segregation
has taken place in the South.”

The charge that we built our Republican coalition on race is a lie. Nixon routed the left because it had shown itself incompetent to win or end a war into which it had plunged the United States and too befuddled or cowardly to denounce the rioters burning our cities or the brats rampaging on our campuses.

Nixon led America out of a dismal decade and was rewarded with a 49-state landslide. By one estimate, he carried 18 percent of the black vote in 1972 and 25 percent in the South. No Republican has since matched that. To see Kristol colluding with the Times to rewrite that history to make liberals heroes and Republicans villains tells us more about him than about the era.

And where were the necons, when Goldwaterites and Nixonites were building the New Majority? Going all the way with LBJ."

I was vice-president of the teen-age Republicans in a major Southern city in 1968 an Etheridge segregationists that we opposed were Democrats and tthey remained Democrats.

 

Whatever man. Just keep on believing what you must/will. I'm done with your nonsensical views on race.

 

Yep, his is black and the southern one is white. Hypocricy noted.

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I use numbers, stats, and evidence. You rely on abject feelings and emotions past down through generations and the NAACP. Keep your faith.

 

show me something i wrote that you think is hypocrisy

 

No it didn't. You apparently are looking at a Republican "rewritten" version of history. Everyone knows when Strom Thurman and Jesse Helms switched parties. Quit peddling BS.

Wiki:
Thurmond represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 until 2003, at first as a Democrat and, after 1964, as a Republican.

Wiki:
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88–352, 78 Stat. 241, enacted July 2, 1964) is a landmark piece of civil rights legislation in the United States[1] that outlawed major forms of discrimination against racial, ethnic, national and religious minorities, and also women.[2] It ended unequal application of voter registration requirements and racial segregation in schools, at the workplace and by facilities that served the general public (known as "public accommodations").

Helms got his first taste of life in Washington, D.C., in 1950, when he worked on the U.S. Senate campaign of segregationist Democratic candidate Willis Smith against the more moderate Frank Porter Graham and served as Smith's assistant after the election.
Using the name recognition and conservative base he built through the on-air editorials, Helms ran for the U.S. Senate in 1972. He had switched to the Republican Party two years earlier out of frustration with the Democratic Party's stance on civil rights,
http://www.wral.com/conservative-icon-jesse-helms-dead-at-86/1755723/

 

There is no such thing as reverse discrimination. And, show some facts to prove your BS. There are plenty of white men married to black women and nobody is killing them.

I'm white, and I've never suffered any reverse discrimination. It's all in your head, to keep you from feeling guilty about mistreating people because they are different than you.

 

You aren't credible. Sorry.

 

Did. You. Really. Post. A. Blog. From. Patrick Buchanan? Do I need to explain how one should use unbiased sources? Wow.