How many gods are there?

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  1. TheGreatSatan

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    all gods exist
     
  2. TheGreatSatan

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    lol, the big bang therory is lame. it claims there is only X amount of matter in the universe. what a "small" thought
     
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    I did not suggest that you thought the big bang theory was a fallacy.

    Why do you believe in the big bang theory?
     
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    Why is the "big bang" not just the last one in an infinite series of collapses and expansions of the universe, no beginning and no end.
     
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    Your estimate is off, no god or gods exist.
     
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    The bible mentions many gods, including but not limited to the following:
    Adrammelech II Kings 17:
    Anammelech II Kings 17:31
    Ashima II Kings 17:30 S
    Ashtoreth I Kings 11:05
    Baal I Kings 18:19
    Baal-berith Judges 8:33
    Baal-peor Numbers 25:03
    Baal-zebub Luke 11:19
    Baalim I Kings 18:18
    Bel Isiah 46:01
    Chemosh I Kings 11:07
    Dagon I Samuel 05:02
    Ephesians Acts 19:35
    Jehovah Exodus 6:03
    Jupiter Acts 14:12
    Lucifer Isiah 14:12
    Mercurius Acts 14:12
    Milcom I Kings 11:05
    Molech I Kings 11:07
    Nebo Isiah 46:01
    Nergal II Kings 17:30
    Nibhaz II Kings 17:31
    Nisroch II Kings 19:37
    Rimmon II Kings 05:18
    Succoth-benoth II Kings 17:30
    Tammuz Ezekial 8:14
    Tartak II Kings 17:31

    So, since even your bible knows there is more than one god, I would say your estimate/guess as to the number of gods is incorrect.
     
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    Over 6 billion, they just don't know they are God's yet. Gods in training if you will. :wink:
     
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    The standard hot model big bang theory tells us the universe began around 14.7 b years ago.

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    Yes! Gods that are MENTIONED in the Bible. Big difference as to which one(s) really exist. Take the story in Acts when Peter and Barnabas preform miracles in front of the Greeks, they fall down to their knees to worship them, as Zeus and Hermes but both Paul and Peter rip their garments(a sign of severe protest) and rebuke them.
     
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    I have repeated nearly every nuance of why I accept the KCA as evidence etc etc a zillion times to some of our more secular members. I do not mind doing it because each time I am hoping a Christian curious guest may be looking at the conversation and decide to check out the KCA and Gödel who was a devout theist/ metaphysics which a thorn in the side of the emergence of the enlightenment (of Logical positive domination of science think). I hope also that if he investigates the other side of science think ie metaphysics as championed by Gödel and Newton a thousand years earlier, he may be able to break the parasitic Iron maiden like hold of the repressive doctrine of logical positive science thought.

    Anyway,

    Neutral and I agree with this (that the universe began to exist Hawking’s etc new non verified non substantiated non empirical evidence theories be dammed). I am not sure if Neutral embraces the KCA to the extent that I do though. Nevertheless, personally I feel that the KCA dovetails into the BB theory in a vice like fashion, something I was not aware of when I first accepted the KCA as good evidence for the existence of God. I feel its a much better than Gödel’s Ontological argument for the existence of God, who was Einstein’s equal some say. However both arguments are interesting accurate and successful, even if denied by our members here.

    RevA
     
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    According to who?
     
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    The mention of plural God’s its my opinon that the author was referencing of the Godhead etc. Even Jesus is considered God, even though God still existed in the realm of heaven. The way I interpreted this is if say we had the capability of putting our mind in an Android body. However due to the limitations of the information storage capabilities we could only transfer around 25% to our android clones brain. So even though the ‘robot’ looked acted and thought like its human counterpart it had only part of a human’s capacity. In the same way Jesus’ human body limited him, and God could exist two or more places simultaneously.

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    The majority of the scientific community! That is very very VERY common knowledge! However recently within the last ten years atheist and secular science has desperately attempting to rewrite the idea the universe began to exist. That is because they despise any theory that agrees with Christianity or religious thought.

    When Did The Universe Begin?
    science Question: When Did The Universe Begin? The Universe began
    approximately 15 billion years ago according to cosmologists and scientists.
    Whichever ...

    www.blurtit.com/q489606.html

    RevA
     
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    Counting President Obama?
     
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    How many Gods there WERE is irrelevant to the fact that to the vast majority of Religious people on the planet, the vast vast majority.. there is only one God.

    The problem is, which version of God is correct?
     
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    That's not a fact, it's a statistic. Statistically speaking most people believe Columbus discovered America. The single #1 flaw with that logic is people were already here, not to mention the fact that Vikings were here hundreds of years before Columbus.

    The top three believe in the same God, they simply continue to argue and disagree on which one is better than the other, which is completely ridiculous since they are the same God. (???)
     
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    I am a devout, educated, open theist, Smokey mountain (Appalachian mountains), well traveled (I go to the wall mart every week), Christian minister, just some back ground. My opinion is that no religion gives us a 100 % correct 'version' etc of God.

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    The same group of people (the majority of the scientific community) have dismissed intelligent design.

    How can you use them as evidence while saying they are wrong? It seems like you are cherry picking only the facts that would support your opinion while ignoring the facts that conflict with your opinion.
     
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    They only believe that because we were all taught that in school. I still remember the the exercise, in 1492, Christopher Columbus sailed the Ocean Blue in the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria"

    I have no idea why, when the first excavations and discoveries of the Norse settlements were initially found in the 60's.. schools continued to teach that nonsense. Ask educators. I know just 10 years ago, that it was still taught as "a theory" in American schools even though the (*)(*)(*)(*) huts are excavated and tools with Norse writing and stuff were found!






    Same God, different interpretations of his Word.
     
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    Yes, in one sense.
     
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    Perhaps none exist.
     
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    God(s) keep changing over time. God is evolving.
     
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    People are only Christian because that's what they were taught in church.

    Evolution teaches us that competition is strongest between those attempting to occupy the same niche.
     
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    There are several reasons that I cherry pick. That would be like saying I have to trust a mechanic to work on all my automobiles systems when I have written testimony he is only good on fuel systems. Science is the same. It would be silly to reject all science when many scientists (not all) reject creation. There are at least two different forms of creation as well. Do you know what they are?

    As I said I have a bachelors of science and a bachelors of art degree. My first love is science. I am also an serious amateur astronomer. Why should I reject that the sun is 93 million miles away just because the same scientist is ignorant about the origins of life? I trust science is correct in some areas but that does not mean I believe everything they say. For example I think evolution is correct in a lot of areas but not all.

    Its like a real scientist (Barrow) said to the atheist dawkins when defending the religious metaphysical side of the origins of the universe ; You aren’t a real scientist you are a biologist!

    RevA
     
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    This is silly. Unless you acknowledge the fact that monotheisms are fundamentally different from polytheisms, you can't acknowledge atheisms fundamental difference to religion.

    If the number and nature of the monotheistic god does not set monotheism apart from polytheism, then the number (0) of gods and the nature thereof (non-existent) in atheism doesn't either. That would give atheism an equal credibility to belief in any god, monotheistic or not.
     
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