How They Got Their Guns

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  1. 10A

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    Laws should not be based on hypothetical scenarios. Sneaking up on an intruder in your house and shooting them in the back of the head? I've never heard of such a situation.

    How many shots does it take to stop an intruder? No one knows. It depends on where the shots hit, what the intruder is wearing, on drugs, etc. This is all moot anyway, what if there are two intruders? How many shots do you need then? Three intruders? Five intruders?
     
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    Personally, I think your should be allowed to use as many bullets as you need to, but lets pretend that someone with no training is going to have the skill to effectively take out 5 guys even with a gun.

    I snuck up on an intruder and took him out with a baseball bat to the back of the skull.
     
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    very seldom when a gun is used are all the rounds fired.

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    No (*)(*)(*)(*), in most cases there is usually only 2 to 4 shots fired is the point I am making genius. I don't recall saying anything about limiting how many shots can be fired.

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    How did we get so many illegal guns in this country, if most firearms have a serial number on them. Just like your car I think every gun should have to be registered every year.
     
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    Memes?

    My post was all fact, and documented. You pretend it's a meme because it's the inconvenient truth.
     
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    Some of the bloodiest wars in the history of man have been fought in the name of God.
     
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    Some are smuggled in, but most are manufactured and sold legally... and then fall off the radar. They're stolen or reported stolen and sold, or just "misplaced."





     
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    They did most of this in Australia after a mass shooting, and guess what???? It worked!
     
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    Gun running into the United States is almost non existant. We have the world's largest munitions and weapons industry. It would be hauling coal to Newcastle.

    We also have a system that makes it easy for just about anyone to get a gun by various means, and using loopholes like the imfamous "gun show loophole"/

    We also have a system that allows (in some states) unlimited gun sales in "private sales" with not kind of background check.

    Of course, the NRA made sure that background checks have to be done in 3 days, or the applicant gets the gun, no matter who he or she is.
     
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    It's hilarious that the gun control crowd thinks mandatory background checks are going stop criminals from getting guns. I can just imagine how it would go down between a couple of gangbangers in Chicago, doing a gun sale in some stash house:
    "Ok now buddy, we better go get you a background check"

    :roll:
     
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    Life is full of surprises! I'd love to see that happen in America as well. Might possibly save a few lives.

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    Howard, try to think outside the box for a minute; it won't necessarily eliminate criminals from getting guns, but might keep some criminals and the mentally ill from getting possession of them and maybe save a few more lives. Do you think if it saved even one life it would be worth it?
     
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    Sounds like a failure of Government hacks to do their jobs in a timely manner, maybe looking at porn or shopping online was just more important.
     
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    *shrug* Maybe the background check would reveal that gang banger #1 who wanted to buy a gun to sell it had already bought and "misplaced" 72 guns the previous year... and might therefore not get the gun to sell to gang banger #2.

    Tighter gun regulation isn't going to make all gun crimes go away, but maybe we can reduce the number of them by holding individuals who by guns legally responsible for keeping track of what they buy.




     
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    You are under some delusion that if guns are removed from society criminally insane won't have access to guns :roflol:

    America is not going to eliminate guns anytime soon, especially since many democrats don't adhere to your ideas
     
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    Sorry, but opinions are not fact. There is no truth to your meme about the NRA.
     
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    1.Deport all the illegals in prison.

    2. Deport all legal temp immigrants in prison

    3. Cut jail time for less serious crimes. Like non violent crimes.

    4. Release people in jail from non-violent/Drug crimes and non-money/fraud related crimes. Those crimes in most cases (some exceptions) should not have that person be in prison. In most cases a guy in jail that never used violence, drugs, or corruption probably did something that doesn't deserve jail time.

    You've alreayd saved a substantial amount of money a cleared a large amount of individuals from prison.

    Just do the rest:

    5. Doing the above removes the needs for high quantity of jails, start removing and/or merging

    6. The above saves you money, use it to increase actual help and support for these guys, especially drug addicts and other crimes that can be.
    rehabilitated. Then arrange times of release when criteria is met.

    and you have solved 70% of the problem.
     
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    Where did I say a 13 YO shouldn't own a firearm?
    Unless that 13 YO has been on the drugs associated with ADHD, ADD.....etc!
     
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    It still isn't a legal sale.
     
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    http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847

    Nope, just makes you more likely to be raped and violently assaulted. Good try though.

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    "2) Can NOT secure your weapon(s) and your child "somehow" gets hold of that weapon(s) makes you (IMO) an accessory to the crime and should be dealt with like any other accessory to a crime (which means if your child shoots/kills someone, you ALSO will be charged with that crime)."
     
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    Would you believe the NRA? Here is an excerpt of their stance on background checks, expanding them, etc. [QUOTENRA opposes expanding background check systems at the federal or state level. Studies by the federal government show that people sent to state prison because of gun crimes typically get guns through theft, on the black market, or from family members or friends, and nearly half of illegally trafficked firearms originate with straw purchasers—people who can pass background checks, who buy guns for criminals on the sly. No amount of background checks can stop these criminals.][/QUOTE]

    Never mind that increased, or universal background checks would reduce the availability of guns to criminals or have law enforcement be able to increase their efforts to the black market or other avenues, but that is proof right there.
     
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    Well, that is only allowed in the sentencing phase of a felony conviction, not the actual guilt or innocence phase. Please learn a little about the law before commenting on "enforce the laws on the books."


    your opinion stated to enforce the background checks and expand them, which is what the NRA does not want. Second, you have no idea how to enforce the law when law enforcement does not have the tools or the resources available to enforce the laws. The NRA is opposed to that as well. And it is very hard for law enforcement, such as ATF, to enforce those laws when their budget has been slashed, the number of agents has been slashed, and still have the expectations to perform their jobs as if they are fully in labor strength, fully budgeted, and fully able to enforce those laws.
     
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    Background checks, including universal background checks, does not mean guns are removed from society.
     
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    When did the fools in our world start believing that a 13 YO is a child?

    A little FYI......at 13 years old, they are now considered a young adult. They are NOT a child anymore.

    Jezus H Christie..........
     
  24. Alwayssa

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    A 13 year old has not reached the age of atonement as defined by law. They are generally considered a child, not as an adult. If they were considered as an adult, then any violation of the law would go through the regular court process and not juvenile court.
     
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    Atonement? I think you mean consent. The prosecutor that prosecuted Zimmerman tried to get a 10 year old charged as an adult.
     

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