How to best deal with North Korea

North Korean diplomat describes nukes as 'sword of justice'.....
news now The Associated Press


Russian state news agency Tass says North Korea's foreign minister has described his nation's nuclear weapons as a "sword of justice."

Tass quoted North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho on Wednesday accusing U.S. President Donald Trump of "setting a fuse of war" with his September speech at the United Nations.

He said the North's strategic forces have "inexhaustible power that won't leave aggressor state America unpunished." Ri added that North Korea's "army and people are persistently demanding to settle the final score with the Americans with a fiery hail, not words.".....snip~

http://start.att.net/news/read/cate...orean_diplomat_describes_nukes_as_sword_of-ap


Yep its working.....as the N Koreans are validating to the entire planet that they have flipped completely over the edge of insanity.

 

We just might have another way to resolve the situation.


The rise of Kim Jong-Un's sister and image maker.....

With her elevation to North Korea's powerful politburo, leader Kim Jong-Un's little sister -- and chief image-maker -- has established herself as the most powerful woman in the nuclear-armed state's political hierarchy.

Kim Yo-Jong's promotion to membership of the North's top decision-making body underlines, analysts say, the level of trust her brother places in one of his closest aides and confidantes.

She is the only one of Kim Jong-Un's siblings to hold an official title and -- in a family tree complicated by their father Kim Jong-Il's various marriages and partnerships -- enjoys a special relationship with her brother in that they also share the same mother.

"They share a life-long bond and her promotion to the politburo means Kim Jong-Un has complete trust in her," said Professor Yang Moo-Jin of the University of North Korean Studies in Seoul.

"She could be the one to take over from Kim in the event of his absence," Yang told AFP......snip~

http://start.att.net/news/read/cate...ise_of_kim_jonguns_sister_and_image_maker-afp

 

And the rumblings of the younger Chinese leaders is they don't want the headache. To them it isn't worth a buffer state. Admittedly they aren't in control but they do have influence on Xi Zhu Xi and the others.

I have no idea what China is really going to do but I'm reasonably confident they won't start a war with the US over this.

 

Well I guess their word is all bluff, just like we hear in Washington, ask Mr. Bannon!

 

Quite frankly, it matters not whether I accept it or not. There will be no preemptive strike by either party because it will be the end of whoever strikes first.
As Mr. Bannon said, it is all bluster!

 

I didn't say that nor did I mention Bannon. You people either can't be counted on to have a normal conversation or cr can be counted on to start with your nonsense.

I don't think they are bluffing but sending normal diplomatic content for the US not to start anything. That's not the content you send in the strongest possible terms. I don't see China starting a war with the US over anything besides the US starting confrontation with China directly. The idea China would start a war with the US because the US even invaded NK is beyond the pale.

 

What does that mean it'll be the end of whoever starts it? If the US starts something with NK then that's the end of NK's regime as we know it. If NK starts war then that's it for them. They cannot win a war with the US. I'm not certain China can win a war with the US much less NK.

 

The U.S. may find their opponent in the event they strike first will be China & Russia.
North & South Korea are gone regardless as is possibly Japan and Guam.

 

That is ridiculous. Neither Russia nor China have the National Security interest to go to war with the US over NK. We'd have to attack either which we wouldn't dare do.

 

Well, I meant that statement was to China and whether they accept or not.

I don't think so.....Putin and China aren't about seeing their world come to an end. Especially not with their rise to the top with others. They want time to play in the cream of the crop.

Both have told N Korea and the US to tone down the rhetoric. Lil Kim hasn't even tried, and now China and Putin know. Trump isn't going to sit back and just take the disrespect. So they know he will return fire and with emphasis on getting Lil kim to act or to say something very very stupid.

While all focus on Trump and what Lil Kim is saying. Haley has put the UN on notice. Those on the security council on notice. Now all know Lil Kim refuses to talk. Lil Kim is the ones that's being condemned. Lil Kims the one taking the financial hit. Its Lil Kim stepping out and threatening others. The first to do so with Trump to.

Any other Repub or Demo would run away from the verbal sparring match. Then kick the can down the road, wherein what Lil Kim can do.....will be ten times greater.

Trump has Lil Kim Right where wants him....and they have obliged him by stepping onto that line. Talking about time for the US and N Korea to end unfinished business. That they are no longer are part of the Armistice and its truce and agreements. That they believe the US has declared War on them. That they are at War with the US.

 

China has already stated that they would intervene if the U.S. were to use a pre-emptive strike. They also said they would reassess their position if N.K. did.

 

Very aware of all that. China will not go to war with us. We'll use NK's use of ICBMs as an excuse or something like that. But there is still some small hope we can avoid it.

 

It doesn't matter to North Korea that North Korea has nothing the United States wants or needs.

North Korea is deathly afraid of a US invasion for any reason to overthrow their regime. They've been afraid of a US lead war for reunification of Korea since the cease fire was declared in the 1950's and the US and North Korea are still officially at war. They fear the United States militarily and honestly it doesn't matter why. The only thing to remember is that they're building these nuclear weapons systems as a deterrent against any possible US invasion and they're not going to dismantle them because that would place their regime at risk.

North Korea has historical evidence to support their fear of the United States. The United States has, in recent years, invaded and overthrown the regimes in Iraq and Afghanistan and was a primary player in the coalition that was responsible for overthrowing Gaddafi's regime in Libya. It's not like the United States doesn't invade and overthrow the governments in foreign countries.

Finally Yeonpyeong, the island referred to above, is only 12 km from the North Korean shoreline and is a disputed island that was seized by South Korea during the Korean War. The UN Charter establishes that the acquisition of territory by force in inadmissible and South Korea can't make a claim of territory related to the Yeonpyeong islands. South Korea still has military forces their but North Korea has a valid territorial claim for the islands. The islands fall well within the territorial waters of North Korea that extend 12 nautical miles (22.2 km) from the "usually the mean low-water mark" on the North Korean mainland according to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

I'm not here to support North Korea's claims but the claims appear to be valid to me based upon the accepted international maritime laws. At best we can state that a dispute exists and neither side is necessarily right or wrong at this time.

In addressing North Korea's nuclear weapons I'm going to defer to the experts.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...s-nukes/ar-AArviUB?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

 

There's very little hope because we have mister Ignorant-in-Chief with his finger on the War Button.

A person has to be knowledgeable about North Korea and not only is Donald Trump completely ignorant but Donald Trump won't listen to anyone that is knowledgeable on North Korea. He didn't listen to his own experts in the Iranian nuclear agreement and he won't listen to any experts in North Korea either. Trump has his head so far up his own rectal cavity that nothing can penetrate all of the S*** that surrounds it.

 

Right now the Island is under S Korea and their control. Its their people living there. Not North Korea. So all that BS don't mean a damn thing. So what N Korea disputes it. Let us know when their people start living there.

Which changes nothing over the fact that N Korea violated the armistice just for firing on those S Koreans and killing 4 and injuring 19.

Containment hasn't worked.....so you need to check out other Experts that knows whats going on. Rather than the leftists that just can never get it Right.

 

Let us know when you figure out how much Mattis has a great deal of imput. This way you wont be showing all that ignorance of the left outright. At least try to mask it.

 

Denigrating someone does not further your argument.

You're offering your opinion in the latter paragraph and not facts. You and I have no idea how well he listens as we don't actually know what his advisors are saying. People who are respected by many are in the room and says he does listen.

We know he's backed into a corner by the previous administrations of which two of the last three were Dems. This really goes back to the end of the War so there's plenty of blame to go around in a bipartisan way.

His options are limited:

1. China bails him out which is outside his own abilities and appears to be more hope than realistic
2. We capitulate to NK and allow them deliverable nukes
3. We remove the regime is some manner limited to covert all the way to massive overt operations the latter more likely conventional

There's not really anything else on the table.