How to Stop Homophobic Behaviour

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    ??? re read my post. I made no assertions about fertility tests or age restrictions. But of course, thats why you want to run there.

    No, one of the couple and a third party can procreate, not the same sex couple.
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    dixon, you are incorrect. Check your 'fact'.

    You speak as though you've been isolated from reality. No particular amount of conversation at this level of interaction, can bring you to your senses. Someone would have to KNOW you to actually reach you.
     
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    Oooook?........... Nope, its still a biological fact.
     
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    Assuming everything you have said is 100% correct, without a doubt, you have failed to make a case against the redefinition of marriage. We are not bound by authority or by original intentions, only by our values and our vision of the world as it can and should be. Just because marriage has been historically an institution meant to manipulate reproductive rates does not mean we have to keep it that way.
     
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    ANY distinctions in the law that discriminate between people must at a minimum serve a legitimate governmental interest, AND the distinction must be rationally related to serving that interest. Marriage is limited to heterosexual couples. Fewer children born to single mothers and more children born into homes with both their mother and father to provide and care for them is the legitimate governmental interest. The distinction of heterosexual couples is rationally related to serving that purpose because a heterosexual couple is the ONLY type of couple that has the capacity to procreate.
    Extend marriage to homosexual couples and youve lost your legitimate governmental interest and youll need a new one if your not going to extend marriage to any two consenting adults who desire to be married.
     
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    AND that is exactly why the rather arbitrary, prejudicial and capricious laws which unjustly and unfairly DENY homosexual people the right to pursue their happiness, are being reviewed and overturned one-by-one.

    But not for rock-solid or justifiable reasons. That is why many such laws are being thrown out.

    A home with two (loving) parents is ideal (not necessarily a an opposite-sex couple). If you are suggesting that the parents MUST be of the opposite sex to provide an optimal nurturing experience for a child, then you are 'incorrect'. And the government is not out to particularly reduce numbers of unwed mothers; and we don't see people proposing any BAN on single parenting. If you find that happening anywhere, please... let us all know.

    Stop denying reality. You are one of the few people STUCK in that 'limited' paradigm today.

    You are so very wrong. Homosexuals being allowed to marry, in NO WAY WHATSOEVER diminishes the 'value' of marriage, nor the 'interest' of 'government' to allow it. Sorry... you're making a lot of things up, and most people realize that readily.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    I guess youve missed the 30 State constitutional Amendments and State DOMA laws that have been adopted in the last 15 years.
     
  8. Johnny-C

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    I haven't missed a thing; and I'll be fighting against laws like that in every way I can. Whether they be struck-down all at once or whittled-away over time... I and other people will fight for them to be eliminated or caused to be of non-effect. And what I speak of here/now... is already in-progress.

    No, I haven't missed the amendments you've referred to, I'm just pointing out that they will be challenged continually... until homosexual people have EQUAL rights in America. That is what such arbitrary and prejudicial laws will always face in this society. In 15 more years, a lot can be changed for the better.
     
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    By misdiagnosing political opponents in a 'gay rights' debate as phobic? Isn't that known as ..

    lying?
     
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    Homophobic speech/behavior are not dependent upon what an individual perceives of either. Though many have 'good' intentions in this world, they say/do bad things.

    Homophobia is a 'bad' thing, period. It is something that people sometimes communicate or promote inadvertently, but it is nevertheless "homophobia".

    Bottom line is that MANY anti-homosexual people express homophobic things. While I understand that anyone (even certain homosexual people) can be homophobic; homophobic expressions or behavior are what they are.

    Finally, I did previously imply that I sought to make a certain person's commentary as "inconsequential" as possible' that surely meant that it was my stated purpose to:

    1. Not allow it to affect myself.
    2. Show others that there are surely other ways of dealing with homophobia, that do not take them emotionally and intellectually off the deep end.

    You see, it isn't so easy in life to face all the hatred and rejection of each and every person who dislikes homosexuals or homosexuality. It is better to find the proper balances concerning that, if for no other reasons than to remain sane and not become an excessively bitter person. Again, homophobia is very difficult to endure, when it is directed AT you or others you care about. Very often in politics, homophobia IS directed at people... that is something many of us seek to fight back against (especially by calling it what it is).
     
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    I dont fear you johnny, I pity you.
     
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    Thanks for that.
     

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