How to Stop Homophobic Behaviour

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  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    That's understandable.

    Even many gay men wouldn't have a problem with that. Still, there are ways to say things, that are less offensive or not offensive at all. I would not tell ANY person that I find some portion of their anatomy to be "disgusting".

    If you aren't homosexual, that is understandable.

    No. Most people aren't that green about human sexuality. If you are heterosexual, of course there is little/nothing appealing to you about certain things homosexual people might do. Just try to realize that homosexual people don't find all the sexual expressions you approve of to be appealing.

    Do you really think he "decided" some 'preference'? (Come on.) That guy was homosexual or bi-sexual from the beginning.

    You don't know that; yet you vilify him with words you'd never want attributed to yourself. That's disgusting in and of itself.

    How is he NOT actually "normal"? He's likely as normal (or more so) than you.

    That's because he's HUMAN; not because he's "gay" and pretending to be "normal".

    I don't understand the feminine thing myself... but I do try to accept people like that. (You aren't likely perfect yourself.)
     
  2. wopper stopper

    wopper stopper New Member

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    since when did puritans believe sex was vile? they certainly did procreate.

    Hey, if i want to believe homosexual acts are vile and disgusting that's my right.

    Don't like it, too bad.
     
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    You have no basis for it, and it's completely unexamined?
     
  4. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Ill be sure to tell him he is mistaken and give him your diagnosis.

    ?????? No, he would agree with my assesment and wouldnt view it as being villified. He would brag about his sexual conquests.
     
  5. wopper stopper

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    basis for what?

    My opinion?

    PS

    I'm not about to examine a homosexual act. The thought makes me shudder with disgust.
     
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    I want to have a substantive understanding of your opinion. I'm not indifferent to your opinion, but I'm not trying to trap you. That you find homosexual acts disgusting cannot be an axiom. It must be, at most, a corollary of other axioms. What are those axioms?

    For example, I find Ethiopian food disgusting because I don't like oil and many Ethiopian foods are unbearably oily.

    Another example: murder is vile and disgusting because it deprives an individual of his most fundamental rights. I believe those rights to be the foundation of any just and beautiful moral system, and their antithesis strikes me as amoral, and thus evil, and thus vile and disgusting.

    As you can see, these are very different cases. People find things disgusting for a variety of reasons. What are your reasons? Do they apply to any heterosexual acts? Are those acts therefore similarly disgusting?
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    In any case, I hope he doesn't listen to your made-up ideas. I'd say he needs to be as honest with himself as possible.

    Well, I hope you and your buddy have a great life together. And it is certain that who he is, doesn't define 'homosexuality' for each and every human being.
     
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    I find cannabilism repulsive as well.

    i don't not understand why a person would eat another the same as performing a homosexual act. I would hurl if i ate human fleash or perform a homosexual act.
     
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    You see no distinction between the murder of human beings for consumption and a consensual, mutually beneficial relationship between two males?

    I'm trying to understand. What specific sexual act do you dislike? Is it anal sex? Heterosexuals also do it. Oral sex? Same thing. Mutual masturbation? Again. A male can do nothing a female can't. Females only add to the number of acts that one could deem alternatively sexy or vile.
     
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    The puritans believed that sex was the necessary evil required to sire children. They put up with the act only long enough to conceive, and then did penance for it.

    As far as your beliefs on homosexual acts, good for you, you have an opinion.

    Now curtail why your opinion should affect law or the rights of consenting adults who are or have homosexual sex?
     
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    I'll curtail my opinion after you curtail yours.

    deal?
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    That isn't how it works. Anything we say/do can be challenged in this reality.
     
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    fine ,

    just remember it works both ways
     
  14. Johnny-C

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    Hey, as long as things aren't 'forced', I'm okay with whatever it is that people may think.

    The big problems come when people seek to impose their thinking/beliefs upon others.
     
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    Like the hate crimes gay people are now committing towards people who do not agree with homosexuality?

    Like showing them a picture of two men kissing at age 5? Like petitioning Sesame Street to make Bert and Ernie gay and eventually get married, and to add a transgendered character to the show? Yeah, what a grand idea.

    Well, while you're at it, why don't you conduct fellatio sessions for all children of America to see, I'm sure you'd love that.


    Oh how sweet. We should teach our children about prostitution as well. In fact, why don't we thrown in a bonus course on polygamy? Tell your kids they should try to marry as many as they can, the one with the least number of spouses is a rotten egg!


    Yeah, I'll bring my children to the whorehouses as well so they can get comfy with them. It's time everyone accepts prostitutes as bosom buddies (no pun intended).

    I don't know why anyone who does not like homosexuality is considered a homophobe. Sometimes, it can be a person's perspective that homosexuality is just disgusting. But of course, that's one perspective homosexuals cannot tolerate, right? You require everyone to be open-minded about your perversion, but you cannot accept a difference of opinion in that matter, correct?



    Okay, I'll be honest about my answer. I find homosexuality disgusting, and I find the gay movement to be a quick-growing hate group who now commits hate crimes to people who do not like homosexuals. So listen to my response, and try to tolerate it. Can you do that?


    You mean children tend to be more easily influenced and indoctrinated. So the gay movement wants to desensitize them at a very young age, perhaps encourage them to experiment with homosexuality at the ripe age of 5. Oh how the homosexuals would rejoice when a 5-year-old boy tries to kiss another 5-year-old boy because the school is teaching them that "it's okay".



    Okay, I find homosexuals disgustingly perversive. Please smile to me :) Yes, I'll talk with you.


    The reality is, stop painting such a rosy picture of your perverse group. I once used to support gay equality rights because I hated hearing gay people being subjected to hate crimes. But now, I am hearing the reverse, of the "gaystapo" in San Francisco secretly gathering information of people who are anti-gay, stalking them out and harrassing them with death threats. One even had his home broken into, a blanket put over his head, and a rock bashed over his skull. An elderly couple who had a sign that said "Yes on Prop 8" had his gay neighbor vandalize that sign to say "No on Prop 8" instead, and when confronted, he punched the elderly man. I can see such exemplary tolerance by the gay movement. Yes I can see where this is heading.

    Your perverse group wants to convert as many of our children to your ways, and for a group that once begged for tolerance, you are now one hateful group that uses intimidation and violence against people who do not see your ways.

    Never again will I support gay rights. And keep your euphemistic descriptions of civility because I know you are referring to civility only to gay people, but not to those who find you disgusting and perverse.
     
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    You mean like the gays and their advocates that are imposing their beliefs about homosexuality on school children.
     
  17. Johnny-C

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    What 'beliefs' are you talking about? And in what cities are these 'beliefs' allegedly being forced.
     
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    I asked a simple question. Why are you trying to slink around it?

    Why do you believe that homosexuals should be denied the same rights as heterosexuals.

    If you really are honest here answer the question.

    My belief is that homosexuals should have equal treatment under the law under the fourteenth amendment. Their relationships are deserving of and require the same responsibility, benefits, and protections as heterosexual relationships. Simple and to the point.

    Now, what are your thoughts on the subject. Please curtails your beliefs.
     
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    OK, then no response
     
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    He doesnt mean curtail. He means explain.
     
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    Because the rights and privilidges are extended to heterosexual couples because of their unique potential of procreation. Homosexual couples dont procreate. But for the potential of procreation, the fact that a couple is sexual is of no concern to the government.
     
  22. Johnny-C

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    Well, people are working to change that legal definition and overall perception. And I think that is a GOOD thing.

    Yes, they can and do. No need to argue that further.

    Well, there are many laws which challenge that broad 'belief' of yours.
     
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    Wrong again. Lets see some evidence backing your claim. Where is there a fertility test for marriage? Is there an age restriction?

    More importantly, homosexual couples can indeed procreate. So your premise is already baseless.
     
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    Exactly.

    Give me the short story of what your beliefs are on this subject.

    If you can't even do that, just go ahead and go with one of the three pre-made responses.

    1. I don't like it.
    2. It's against my religion.
    3. GAY SEX IS TEH GROSS!!
     
  25. dixon76710

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    Its not a legal definition or perception, it is a biological fact. No amount of legal definitions or change in perceptions will change the facts of biology.
     

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