How to Stop Homophobic Behaviour

I think he meant that to be a rhetorical statement. Calling people on their bluster is not good form. It can cause offense!

 

That may work for you, as it appears you intend to treat others equally. However that approach would be simplistic if applied to society as a whole.

For one, being homosexual, isn't some "alternative lifestyle", it is one's sexual-orientation. You're implying (by what you say) that someone could disagree with someone being male/female; that doesn't make sense. Also, while I agree that people may not see things 'my' way, that does not mean they have accurately assessed what they have seen. People CAN indeed be 'homophobic', whether they see things 'my' way or not.

So, although I understand your desire to keep things simple (for yourself)... what you have submitted above is far from being definitive in all cases.

 

But it is. No reason to pretend it's not. Coffee drinkers and tea drinkers have alternative lifestyles. No implication of superiority rests in that point.

Am I to believe that the stereotypical male and the stereotypical female have equivalent lifestyles? In the aggregate, I can't imagine you believe that.

 

Soooo, we should accept each other as human beings, and anyone who doesn't agree with who you are is a homophobe.
Or, we accept and tolerate each other for who we are, even if we are different.
Acceptance goes both ways. If you don't accept me for disagreeing with your homosexuality, for whatever reason, how can you expect me to accept you?

 

You are incorrect. And we can play the 'definition' game now, if you want. I'll look up the definition of "sexual-orientation", and you look up "lifestyle". Go ahead.

Who is pretending? (See the above.)

Not the people I know. And I can't see the "gay" or "straight" in every "lifestyle" either. The greatest distinction I've ever noticed, is in who people choose as partners. Other than that, I've seen no "lifestyle"... except what is common to Americans in general.

No. And it truly could not.

You are talking about male vs. female; I'm talking about homosexual vs. heterosexual. As I implied above, their can be and are often virtually 'indistinguishable'. There is no (definitive) gay or straight... "lifestyle".

Yes, I surely do (as I've witnessed it countless times in life). Gay/straight people don't necessarily fit the silly 'stereotypes' they are so often assigned; that is reality.

 

No. That isn't what I would say; and I did not. Did you read what I wrote?

No. That isn't what I would say; and I did not. Did you read what I wrote?

Not always. For example, I've learned to accept even racists, who do not accept me (as an African American). At some point in life (as a teen), I figured that some people just don't WANT to change.

There are many heterosexual people I accept, who do not accept homosexuality. As I pointed out above, I don't expect observing/doing what is right, to go on HOLD for people's individual attitudes (or hang-ups).

I can tell you, that LONG BEFORE all people come around to accepting "homosexuality", laws (in America) will be passed granting and protecting the individual rights of homosexual people.

 

n. The way in which a person or group lives.

I don't see how this can be construed to fit your argument. I really don't understand. Some men have lives that consist of sex with other men. Others have lives that consist of sex with women. Still more have lives that consist of both activities.

These are obviously in tandem with the definition.

Gay people have many different subsets of lifestyles. Sometimes, these lifestyles are close to those possessed by groups of straight people. Never do straight people have sex with men. There is an irreconcilable difference there.

Gay men have sex with men. Straight men have sex with women. Some in both subsets have sex with neither-- there's your middle ground: the virgins. But I don't think that's what you mean.

 

homosexuality
sexual orientation
lifestyle

Now look, you are conflating the actual meaning of the words above. Or is it that you think/believe homosexuality is something other than it is?

I can only challenge you, not change your mind. But I promise, I will challenge you on using term "lifestyle" as you have applied it here in this thread.

It's clear enough: You should not refer to homosexuality as a "lifestyle", unless you properly QUALIFY what you mean by that. Homosexuality is NOT typically something that people 'do'; it is what they are (as being). That is not a "lifestyle".

I realized that.

So? That isn't the definition of a "lifestyle"; it simply isn't. What two people (might) do in the bedroom, likely not every day and for less than an hour at a time... does NOT equate to it being a "lifestyle".

Not defined as "lifestyles".

As I said, I cannot change your mind... only challenge what you say.

And you are beginning to do here, what you should have done at the onset... qualify your use of the term "lifestyle". And one thing is certain/clear, "homosexuality" isn't a "lifestyle".

One can find certain lifestyle among both heterosexual and homosexual people, but few things are so exclusive... that one sexual-orientation (or the other) warrants its own label as a "lifestyle".

Really?

You are joking, right?

That is what you 'believe'; not the way it actually is.

Also, asexuals (which truly exist) fit the category you just made up.

What I "mean", is that the term "lifestyle" isn't necessarily equal to a description of one's sexual-orientation. You see, sexual-orientation isn't a 'habit'.

 

So, that's what you think a "lifestyle" is? Okay.

 

Noooooo, thats what these gays think is a lifestyle. Perhaps you have no style.

 

Phobias often require psychological assistance as they block out reality - homophobia a case in point.

 

This is a parody (well thought-out); notice how the use of the word "lifestyle" is applied.

 

"Phobias"??? I dont fear homosexuals, I pity them.

 

Nah, you're scared.

 

You keep saying that, but your words reflect something else (like homophobia).

 

His fear is manifest in a continuous aggressive disposition over the issue, denoting unease and disgust - arising from fear. His attempt to trivialize the issue itself is also plenty of evidence. They guy might even by trying to come of the closet or something.

 

Perhaps you need to be serious about the things you submit to this forum. You are being ridiculous! If you believe what you say above, then you are hardly a serious person, when it comes to these things.

 

Yeah. He is not acknowledging the signals he is giving off.

 

Which words would that be? You can quote them here.

 

Youll need to direct your disagreement to the organizers of the BIG Gay Lifestyle Show.

 

Are you one of the organizers? I think I'm onto something here.

 

No, thats why I suggested you direct your disagreement to the organizers of the Big Gay Lifestyle event.

 

You can't argue about what your opponent is thinking. It is completely irrelevant, rude, and pointless. You don't know what he's thinking. He does. You lose.

He says he pities gays; I do too. They are limited in their selection of a mate to an extremely unfortunate extent. They are looked down upon almost universally by every culture. They have their private lives intruded upon even more than the rest of us. If they wish to have a child, it is much harder for them-- many times, it is even harder to adopt. There is much more to pity.

The real question is not whether my pity makes me a fearful closeted homosexual with a lot of self-hate, but whether that pity is reasonable, how it should be dealt with, and how government policy can be shaped to help with those issues (e.g., make it less likely for people to become homosexual? try to force them to act heterosexually? or try to remove the barriers to the free exercise of their behavior, as they see fit, based upon inherent or socially-effected preferences or whatever?).

Accept the ability of people to freely express their thoughts, accept their thoughts, and go from there-- unless you want your opponent to argue about the same sorts of topics (gay people are actually straight, they're just conditioned and they fear the opposite sex, etc, etc, etc.). I find such debates unnecessary and unproductive, myself.

 

"irrelevent,rude and pointless" is what megadeth does here.