I am Concerned

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The law was changed, so the VP can't do that...lol

    But, we know it'll happen. The Democrats are already hatching a plan...

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...he-wins-the-supreme-court-could-prevent-that/
     
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    Here’s the problem with this ending democracy rhetoric the democrats are spouting. Most folks are taking that as nothing more than negative political rhetoric, propaganda if you will. A vote for me slogan. 41% of all Americans strongly agree this ending democracy rhetoric by the democrats is nothing more than a scare tactic, add another 18% who somewhat agree that its nothing more than a scare tactic.


    https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/HHP_Jan24_KeyResults.pdf


    This vote for my candidate or you’ll see the end of democracy to some means the democrats in their form of democracy will be the only political party left or available to vote for.
     
  3. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that was done after Demokrats spent four years trying to overturn the 2016 election. Bet you didn't think that one through, did ya?

    Dems didn't think that or their sham impeachments through, either, and look what's headed Quid Pro Quo Joe's way....
     
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    Biden is absolutely entitled to attempt to exercise any challenges that he thinks will or could be ruled as Constitutional if he feels like he is wronged in the election.

    Sincerely, why should I or anyone else worry about that possibility? I fail to see why that would be a big deal. If he tried and it lacks merit, it would be quickly shot down by the USSC, and we move on. No harm, no foul. This would not represent some type of existential crisis to our government.
     
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    Except that Democrats didn't try to overturn the 2016 elections. Hillary conceded, remember? When has Trump conceded? But, you continue with your false equivalencies to justify your support of Trump's attack on democracy.
     
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    The US has the best democracy money can buy
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The US can't be conquered militarily, or it would be very very difficult,
    But Bribe Biden and you can get millions of people in.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    There's always this influence of democracy in what people are willing to accept. For most of human history, people accepted kings because they believed it was divinely ordained, and these people are guided by god to rule and meant to rule. This was enabled by a few things like feudalism, normalizing and institutionalizing a serf-master knight-lord social structure, as well as oligarchical foci of power (the nobility).

    Since then, in America, people have been taught to value democracy. That people's voices count. That democracy makes representatives legitimate, and this replaced the divine right of monarchical systems.

    There has been a shift, though. After Nixon resigned in disgrace, people under him such as Ailes sought to never let that happen again - they purposely created a pro-republican propaganda network called Fox News. The short-term effects of this propaganda network include to help republicans get into office, but as a side effect it has been training people to distrust democracy, to distrust and devalue people on the other side of the political spectrum, and so legitimacy based upon democracy is increasingly in question. The CPAC guy was joking, but there's more truth to what he says than he realizes.

    Now, I don't actually think democracy is the end-all-be-all best process to determine rulers or policy. But the trajectory of what conservatives are seeking to replace it with, which is just people from their tribe who agree with them, would be far more likely to lead to fascism than any possibility better than democracy (which to me would be smart people and science deciding things, technocracy).
     
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    Its pretty entertaining watching leftist worry about the future of democracy after they have spent 8 years destroying it because of their hate for the candidate who won. Now with that candidate looking like he will win regardless of their attempts, they are all panicking because deep down they know they ****ed up and are worried about the opposition party doing the same thing they've spent 8 years doing.

    Its truly ironic and amusing to read.
     
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  10. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Yes they did...

    "At least a half-dozen Democratic electors have signed onto an attempt to block Donald Trump from winning an Electoral College majority..."

    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/democrats-electoral-college-faithless-trump-231731

    "A group of House Democrats are planning one final, futile effort to challenge Donald Trump's election by raising objections when Congress meets to certify the electoral votes today – but the move will get immediately shut down unless a senator decides to signs on."

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-electoral-college-win-ratified-Congress.html
     
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    Hillary is happy, the Clinton Library Fund has 500 million dollars
     
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    This is a false narrative, though also a bit vague so I'm not sure what you're referring to. If it's the criminal cases: Consider what the right does. They regularly try to get charges against prominent democrats. Both Clintons. Biben. Only difference with Trump is the charges are starting to stick. If it's "stealing elections," well, then you're in tinfoil hat land and immune to facts.
     
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    Any sane thinking person would but Trump's only winning 60% of the "R" vote....Biden is up into the 90+% of the "D" primary votes....still quite a few month's to go but get out, vote and take a non voting citizen to the polls with you. And the women's vote is also going to be a significant factor as well.
     
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    He was being sarcastic, sure, but we all know high-level republicans hate democracy by their actions. Gerrymandering, trying to overturn the presidential election, trying to suppress voting because making voting harder favors republicans. Him making a joke of it comes across like a mob boss joking about murder.
     
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    Except they did - Russia Collooooooozhiun conspiracy theories/hoaxes and multiple impeachments.

    I remember how Demokrats never conceded the 2016 election and spent the next four years trying to overturn it. I also remember this:

    Hillary Clinton says Biden should not concede the election 'under any circumstances'
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ould-not-concede-2020-election-under-n1238156

    False equivalencies my ass. Dems get what they give and then they bawl about it....

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    That comparison isn't really valid though since Biden has no serious rival in the primaries. Haley doesn't seem like she will win, but she's a more serious contender for Trump than any contender for Biden's nomination.
     
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    There were other people on the D ballot though, as for serious contenders was Nikki ever really one(?), that's not usually the case for an sitting incumbent. Trump's base can't take him all the way and his base is still shrinking.
     
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    But the sarcasm is REALLY important. STUPID people see the words and go OH MY GOD!!! Context is king but like this thread, who cares about LYING, when an agenda is more important.
     
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    Like any topic, open a thread. And if I have something to comment, I will.
     
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    Uh-huh

    RIP Jeffrey Epstein.. LONG LIVE THE CLINTONS...
     
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    You are confused. Neither of the Clintons were President when Jeffrey Epstein died.

    The other guy... what's-his-name was... Forgot his name... The one on the left in this photograph.

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    Mr Golden Showers, let's call him for now....
     
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    The charges are only sticking because of the corruption within the judicial system.
     
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    Still believe the Steele Dossier is true?...lol
     
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    You mean like what has already been happening the last six years?
     
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    Weak dodge and misdirect :)

    LMAO, Once imprisoned I'm sure the group vote was swift and clearly fatal ;)
     
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