Is it transphobic to not want to date a trans woman?

You are ignoring the fact that there are also plenty of MTF who are attracted to women.

 

LOL.. ok, sure there are...

 

Color me surprised that you were basing your take on never having actually talked to any trans people or learning anything about them at all. Shocker.

 

So if a woman does not want to date a trans woman, she is being homosexual?

 

How exactly does this explanation work given the many MtF trans woman who want women as their partners?

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It's not, or at least not the only point. For me it is, but I no longer have that ability to produce offspring. Neither does my one wife. So that's not the point for her either.

Seems you're limiting the selection in order to make your point. Plenty of cis men out there don't want children, so the ability for the woman to have children is moot for them. In fact, her inability is a draw for many such men

And yet somehow many people do, both cis and trans.

Legally is whatever the law says it is. So it's quite easy for a male to legally be a woman.

Conspiracy theory section is that way -->

 

His mind is made up. Don't confuse him with facts. They tend to destroy his arguments.

 

I am transphobic and have no need to hide that fact. I feel sorry for people with this perversion. I would encourage them to embrace their gender to the best of their ability. They may find solace in the gay community.

 

LOL... your pejorative simply doesn't track. But it is typical of your posting.

 

Unlikely. The observation seems to be that because just being gay is too limiting, transforming into the opposite sex to "reconcile" their personal disforia is the only option. It literally violates the context of being gay and assumes that gay could be "fixed" by transformation. It's abhorrent.

 

The proper terminology is poohead or *******. You decide.

 

Thanks. I would think the labels many times are created by people probably tired of being mislabeled so they came up with labels to prevent other labels which is a damn shame in the first place because if they were not called improper names probably I am guessing those people would not have come up with all their labels in response to what they feel is ignorance or hate.

Also most of the labels correct me if I am wrong are not about biological gender but they are about either sexual preference or which gender someone identifies with.

 

There was no "pejorative" in the post you quoted. Meanwhile, it's simply a fact that many MTF trans folks are still attracted to women. I'm sorry that the facts are inconvenient for your agenda.

 

People have assumed if someone was a transvestite (cross dresser) it automatically meant they were gay. Now they make the same mistake with transexuals. They assume if say a man changes to a woman he was attracted to men sexually before the transition and now after.

Those assumptions are of course not accurate but people mix up gender with gender identity and gender (sexual) preference definitions as you are well aware. It can get confusing I guess because there are 50 descriptions to start with:

https://queerintheworld.com/different-lgbtq-flags-and-meaning/

Flags were a hobby of mine as a kid. I find it fascinating how many there are now for identity.

If you want to see my favourite flags try:

New Brunswick




British Columbia


My favourite pride flag is
Lip Stick Lesbians

 

"Transphobia" is a propaganda term designed to medicalize opposition so you can be treated without your consent. If you don't want to **** men, don't. Pretty simple.

 

Making that assumption as a stop gap observation until you learn otherwise is just playing the odds, just as assuming that a person is either heterosexual or cisgender, or even right handed. That is what the odds will be. The phobia of any of those would be the refusal to accept that a person falls outside those odds, when they let you know it's other than the statistical usual.

Transexual is considered by most as an insult, as it used to be used as a pejorative, especially with in the medical community before it started its turn around. There is a portion of the community who are trying to recover the term to indicate a transgender person who has undergone full SRS. As to the assumption, yes that is a common occurrence, but again, it's not a problem to use that as a running assumption until you find out otherwise. However it is a problem when a person presents it as the only thing, ignoring the other possibilities or claiming the other possibilities don't happen.

It probably doesn't help that both sexual orientation and gender identity are teamed up so to speak. So although they are different things, they are often presented together. Which means that yes, one can mistake a gender identity label for an orientation and vice versa.

 

Calling someone "transphobic" because they don't want a penis in, on, or anywhere around them during a sexual encounter is ignorant. I almost think it's heterophobic.

The idea is disgusting, but so is the idea of anal sex. Is a person "anal-phobic" because
he or she doesn't have any desire to give or receive in that regard?

 

It is reasonable and appropriate to have separate terms for:

1) People with male genitalia (aka men ... can we grow up please?) who erroneously think that they are, and who feel entitled to be called a "woman," though sane people with a junior high level education know that the word woman is reserved for adult human females; and

2) men who have mutilated themselves by having their genitalia surgically removed.

You don't have the right to force society to call you a woman just because you think you are. Same with "genius," "cat," and "horse."
What you call yourself is your business, I guess.

 

you can be sexually attracted to anyone your body decides, no one can force it on you, so no, it's not transphobic, any more then only being sexually attracted to people over a certain height, body shape, hair color, ect....

 

I'd be interested to hear why someone voted yes.

 

It's because they don't understand the difference between disagreeing and a phobia. When they say Transphobia, they're just trying to make it sound important.

 

Or women want to be in relationships more than men do and think they are in one while the guy they are dating don't.

 

I think that if the tranny hasn't been surgically altered, the woman is just gay.

 

I would half agree with you, but the trouble I have with those sort of views is that I don't think we should do anything that might push a person towards getting one of these surgeries. So claiming, "Well, you're not really what you want to be unless you get this surgery" could very likely push them into doing it. Which is obviously a horrendous outcome.

 

That brings us to another question.
If a man only gets turned on by other men does that mean he's a misogynist?

And the next question is, if he transgenders to a woman is she then homophobic if she still only gets turned on by men?

 

You are even now more confusing. If a trans woman has not been surgically altered, then she has a penis. So how is the other woman just gay?