Is religion a from of evil in disguise?

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Is religion a form of evil in disguise?

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  1. Clint Torres

    Clint Torres New Member

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    Is religion a form of evil in disguise?

    People are told that religion is good.

    From my observations religion seems to be the down fall of all cultures. It forces obediancey guilt, fear. Makes people stop thinking, makes them beg obey, pray, worship and retreat and give up. How does this make anyone a better person?

    I have observed people who are religious not question autority, and do bad things because they do not need to account for their actions.

    They say a few hail whatever and are forgiven by a subculture of dictators who run their lives like sheep and profit off them.

    I just don't understand how people can be so simple. And why do the religious people feel the need to be moral and self righteous and part of a group.

    Is it because of the fear, guilt, and their own lack of ability to think independently?

    Without regurgitating the Stuff they dictate to you try explaining it intelligently, like an adult with some form of logic and not base it on myth and stories.
     
  2. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Only if it is perceived to be a form of evil in disguise.

    True.... in most cases... It would primarily depend on who the speaker is and what that speakers view of religion is.

    Well, that is your perspective, however, your perspective might be distorted by circumstances which have been beyond your control.

    Well, the Bible does indicate that there is none that is good, no, not one.

    Wow! Do you know who are the members of the dictators that forgive those that say a few hail whatevers? I need to get to know those people so that I can make application in hopes of gaining from the revenue that is being found.

    Study more and you might find out how to be that simple. As for the part about belonging to a group,,,, probably for the same reason that others feel a need to be part of another group.

    To my understanding of the working of the human mind, everyone thinks independently. As an example, I cannot think for you and you cannot think for me.

    have you tried doing what you have suggested?
     
  3. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    What civilizations have fallen because of their religions?

    Edit: I suppose there are always examples, let's say instead: How many civilizations have fallen because of their religions?
     
  4. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Since evil and good are religious concepts (evil from DEVIL, and good from GOOD) they are basically meaningless in this usage, you cannot define something by itself. Religion is neither good nor evil. What religion is, is superstitious nonsense and a bane of modern society.
     
  5. JavaBlack

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    Religion is neither good nor evil.
    It can be used to motivate or rationalize either good or evil.
     
  6. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Depends on what the particular religion beliefs are or what the religion advocates.

    If a religion based on love and compassion and the acceptance of all considered to be evil? I don't think so.

    If a religion based on fear, hate, violence, and all sorts of other things that any decent person should find repugnant considered to be evil? I can certainly see an argument being made on just such grounds.
     
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    Blackrook Banned

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    I know of one young lady who is Christian, and her faith inspired her to bring eyeglasses (contributed by Christians) to Kenya and pass them out. She also took $200 of the money she collected (from Christians) to pay a doctor to take out a little girl's cataracts and cure her of blindness. She plans to go back to Kenya after she has completed medical school.
     
  8. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes it is. Religion is run on earth by humans. Humans are good, evil, selfish, altruistic, sacred, profane, and everything else. Whatever humans are, religion can be.

    The rest of your post is typical anti-religious claptrap :bored:
     
  9. OJLeb

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    Religion is not evil in general.

    Most of the time, religion teaches to do good things and not bad things.

    That said, a religion is only as good as the person who follows it. It doesn't mean the entire religious group of the world is evil if a minority do bad things "in the name of God" (which I find to usually be phony as God doesn't command these people to do what they do). And because the majority happen to be good people, who do good deeds, it doesn't mean every body associated to religion in good in the same way not all are evil (althoug God does preach to be good, not evil).

    I use religion in general, not talking about any religions in particular.

    Salam
     
  10. DBM aka FDS

    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    I stated that it is most definitely! Why is there religion to begin with? Is it not your relationship with God (and whoever else if you believe in more) and him alone? See, how I looked at it – never in the Bible does it say – “you and your homies….”

    It seems that people have read the Bible and now find it easier to just be a religion instead of reading His Book themselves! Now, IF I was religious I would think about one thing and one thing only… Ready for this?

    What would Satan do?!?

    Well, if I were Satan I would make religion, and put that BETWEEN God and his Sheep. This way I could and would be able to corrupt on large masses! By sticking in Religion, I can get idiots to commit suicide with bombs strapped to their foreheads. By sticking in religion, I can get whole churches to drink the punch! By sticking in religion, I can make whole nations fight each other… Oh, but Satan is FAR smarter than I am, so… maybe I’m just blowing smoke… :)



    OR AM I….. :twisted:
     
  11. OJLeb

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    And I could ask, why would God allow Satan to do this?
     
  12. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    No. And the premise is ridiculous. The faithful are not evil, merely easily-swayed.
     
  13. moisoha

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    I don't think God intervenes in that way. I think that God does... well, for example what happened with Job. God didn't stop Satan from doing many things to Job - he stopped him from killing Job, but that was about it - but he let Satan do a lot of things to test Job. I think that God might allow Satan to make a religion like this (I'm not saying that's any religion in particular) and then test people through it.
     
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    The Spanish Empire. Religion and politician corruption.
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    No. Religion is flawed because we are flawed.
     
  16. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    It makes no difference what a religion is "based on", many people claim Christianity is based on love and compassion, yet many Christians think that nuking Afghanistan/Iraq/Iran/place an Islamic nation of your choice here, back to the stone ages would be a great thing to do.
    What religion claims to be is totally meaningless. Religions are ONLY, what the actions of its followers do. Claims are foolish, when actions say different.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    I know an atheist, by the name of Bill Gates, he and his atheist wife have given BILLIONS to help educate the poor and illiterate children of the world. In fact, their billions will keep doing so, long after they die.

    Some people are decent, some are not, and it has NOTHING to do with religion.
     
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    Religion was invented to help with the fears of ignorant, primitive, superstitious human beings, nothing more. Satan is just as imaginary as any other god.
     
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    Don't forget the Mayans, who allowed a handful of "white gods" to loot and wipe out their entire culture, because their religion predicted the coming of "white gods".
     
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    Religion is flawed, because it is primitive superstitious nonsense, based on the fears of mankind. Humans are not flawed, they are just human, with all the good and bad points of any animals.
     
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    No, it's a quirk of the human mind and it's in full and plain view.
     
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    I don't know why I couldn't think of this before. Satan already has a "religion". It's Satanism.

    I'm just saying, why would God allow us to either believe in him (through religion) or deny his existance (atheism) is Satan was truly behind religions. That's really the only two choices. The middle is a bit complicated... For me atleast.

    Religion in itself is a test. A truly religious person would be a very good human being. I'm not talking about fundementalists, I'm talking about people who obey the teachings of Bible/Quran/Torah which all preach for peace and love.

    What people do in the name of religion is what people do in the name of religion (not a typo). Religion can't defend itself from the idiots who twist it to justify violence on innocent people.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    And your biased views make it seem that religion is the problem and not political corruption. Well, in the case of the Spanish Empire, religion was effected by the political corruption as well. Political corruption brought the empire down.
     
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    We would have wiped them out regardless. Every time a less technologically advanced culture has encountered a more technologically advanced culture, the more technologically advanced culture wins out.
     
  25. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    You contradict yourself. You first say humans are not flawed, then you say they have bad points. Which is it? Are they flawless or do they have bad points?
     

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