Is Roe v. Wade at Risk???

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  1. Jack Hays

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    I'm not getting into that. Too many divergent views.
     
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    Your claim is disproved by the continuing debate.
     
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    That's not what you posted.

    But then it is only your opinion.
     
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    ...which is caused by the Anti-Choice/Anti-Woman side...if they would quit trying to destroy women's rights the debate would go away
     
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    No it isn't. How do you arrive at that conclusion?
     
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    This is exactly what I posted and it is there for all to see you denying it.


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    Let's hope….I doubt 51 % of the population wants to become slaves..

    FoxHastings, Today at 12:38 PM




    Yes, it's my opinion that 51% of the population does not want to become slaves...in fact 100% of the population does not want to become slaves....

    IF you feel they do....that would be quite odd....
     
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    Your continuing demonstrations of hate make my point.
     
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    I'm not going to review the whole exchange for you. The point is that the attempt to impose a comprehensive solution to a question with deeply divided differences of principle has simply provoked an endless and poisonous debate. The wiser course would be to leave the question to the states.
     
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    THAT is a statement that the US has fundamentally failed. And on that I agree. The same can be said of most any contentious issue. From the Civil Rights act to the Emancipation Proclamation, to the right to die and the right to choose how we live, the US system is a pathetic failure.

    For starters, the South never accepted defeat. The civil war never ended.
     
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    No. That's the reason we have a federal system.
    Laboratories of democracy - Wikipedia
    ". . . .The Tenth Amendment of the United States Constitution provides that "all powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." This is a basis for the "laboratories of democracy" concept, because the Tenth Amendment assigns most day-to-day governance responsibilities, including general "police power", to the state and local governments. Because there are 50 semi-autonomous states, different policies can be enacted and tested at the state level without directly affecting the entire country. As a result, a diverse patchwork of state-level government practices is created. If any one or more of those policies are successful, they can be expanded to the national level by acts of Congress. For example, the Massachusetts legislature established a health care reform law in 2006 that became the model for the subsequent Affordable Care Act at the national level in 2010, or the various concealed carry state reciprocity agreements that motivated the subsequent federal Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017. . . . "
     
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    Legalize secession and end the madness.
     
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    Nope.
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    Right, and it failed. There is never any resolution. And now we have trumpers attacking the capitol to overthrow an election. They openly seek to manipulate elections. The system has failed.

    You can post all the BS you've been fed but the system has failed.
     
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    The Trumpers failed and the country is strong.
     
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    The existence of life does not necessarily include any actual statement as to its origins, indeed the over concern about just that aspect of human existence is a major reason why we have the abortion controversy in the first place.
     
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    Thank you for your support of the right candidate. I think Rudy is demented, he was a good mayor in his day but is now just one more victim of the man formerly in the White House
     
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    Questions of fundamental rights should be independent of politics. Indeed, politics in these areas is the very definition of civic poison. We adjust our politics to fit these considerations, not the other way around
     
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    You've been hip-deep in it this entire thread. You make good points but they argue against you as well as for. I've been told that shows we are approaching truth
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    ...which is caused by the Anti-Choice/Anti-Woman side...if they would quit trying to destroy women's rights the debate would go away


    Where did I say I hated anyone?

    No where...

    BTW, you have no point...
     
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    Always looked like old Billie T was not one to be trifled with, going by appearances

    I've read several opinions about his March. Some say he ate babies, but most accounts say that he burned fewer residences than many would have, given the mission.

    He's rather famous for his answer as to whether he would run for President. "If nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve"

    He didn't either.
     
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    His photo portrait (the one posted here) has hung on my office wall for over 30 years.
    Favorite quote: "War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say give them all they want."
     
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    Very few men or women approve of late term abortion. The law may give women a right to choose. It can and probably will require them to choose fast.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I don't agree especially with your "many Americans".....

    Some women don't even know they're pregnant at 15 weeks..

    Some rape victims may be so injured and/or traumatized that they can't make a decision that soon...

    But compassion and respect for "precious lives" ( women's) were never big with Anti-Choicers.




    "Late term" is AFTER viability (23 weeks) NOT 15 weeks.



    Some women don't even know they're pregnant at 15 weeks..

    Some rape victims may be so injured and/or traumatized that they can't make a decision that soon...

    But compassion and respect for "precious lives" ( women's) were never big with Anti-Choicers.
     
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    Focus: Very few men or women approve of late term abortion. The law may give women a right to choose. It can and probably will require them to choose fast.
    Reality can be very inconvenient and hard to accept.
     
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    No, but there is a requirement to not determine that something is in the Constitution which is simply not there. When did I mention anything about being pro-life? You think that only pro-life people disagree with Roe v Wade? Even HONEST pro-choice liberals say that Roe v Wade was a JOKE legal ruling.
     
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