Is Rush Limbaugh really this stupid?

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  1. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    I was pretty shocked to hear that even a right wing radio talk show host could say something as stupid as this re the Lord's resistance army:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...augh-wrong-about-inhuman-LRA-says-victim.html


    just in case you don't know who these christian freedom fighters are:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...stance-armys-new-reign-of-terror-2051298.html
     
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    Is he really that stupid? Why yes, yes he is...which is why conservatives love him so much; he's almost family.
     
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    Why target LRA and not Muslim militias in Sudan? I think that's the point that Rush is trying to make.



    Darfur, Sudan

    ICC-02/05

    Investigation
    Situation in Darfur, Sudan

    Referral - 31.03.2005
    English | Français

    Decision to open investigation - 06.06.2005
    Arabic | English | French

    ICC-02/05-01/07

    Pre-trial
    Case The Prosecutor v. Ahmad Muhammad Harun ("Ahmad Harun") and Ali Muhammad Ali Abd-Al-Rahman ("Ali Kushayb")

    Ahmad Muhammad Harun ("Ahmad Harun")
    Ahmad Muhammad Harun

    Former Minister of State for the Interior of the Government of Sudan;
    Minister of State for Humanitarian Affairs of Sudan.
    Prosecution application for a warrant of arrest
    27 February 2007
    Warrant of arrest issued by Pre-Trial Chamber I
    27 April 2007
    At large

    Ali Muhammad Ali Abd-Al-Rahman ("Ali Kushayb")
    Ali Muhammad Ali Abd-Al-Rahman Alleged leader of the Militia/Janjaweed.
    Prosecution application for a warrant of arrest
    27 February 2007
    Warrant of arrest issued by Pre-Trial Chamber I
    27 April 2007
    At large



    ICC-02/05-01/09

    Pre-trial
    Case The Prosecutor v. Omar Hassan Ahmad Al Bashir

    Omar Hassan Ahmad Al Bashir

    ©UN Photo / Stuart Price Born on 1 January 1944 in Hoshe Bannaga, Shendi Governorate in the Sudan.
    National of Sudan.
    President of the Republic of Sudan since 16 October 1993.
    Prosecution application for a warrant of arrest
    14 July 2008
    First warrant of arrest issued by Pre-Trial Chamber I

    Second warrant of arrest issued by Pre-Trial
    Chamber I 4 March 2009


    12 July 2010
    At large

    Counts

    The warrants of arrest for Al Bashir list ten counts on the basis of his
    individual criminal responsibility under Article 25(3)(a) of the Rome
    Statute as an indirect (co) perpetrator including:

    • five counts of crimes against humanity: murder - Article 7(1)(a);
    extermination - Article 7(1)(b); forcible transfer - Article 7(1)(d); torture -
    Article 7(1)(f); and rape - Article 7(1)(g);

    • two counts of war crimes: intentionally directing attacks against a
    civilian population as such or against individual civilians not taking part in
    hostilities -Article 8(2)(e)(i); and pillaging - Article 8(2)(e)(v).

    • Three counts of genocide: genocide by killing (article 6-a), genocide by causing serious bodily or mental harm (article 6-b) and genocide by deliberately inflicting on each target group conditions of life calculated to bring about the group’s physical destruction (article 6-c).




    ICC-02/05-02/09

    Closed
    Case The Prosecutor v. Bahar Idriss Abu Garda

    Bahar Idriss Abu Garda




    Born in Nana, North Darfur. Believed to be in his early forties.

    Tribe Zaghawa.

    Chairman and General Coordinator of Military Operations of the United Resistance Front.
    Summons to appear issued under seal 7 May 2009
    Unseald 17 May 2009
    First appearence 18 May 2009
    Confirmation Hearing 19-29 October 2009


    Counts

    Pre-Trial Chamber I is of the opinion that there are reasonable grounds to believe that Abu Garda is criminally responsible as a co-perpetrator or as an indirect co-perpetrator for three war crimes under article 25(3)(a) of the Rome Statute:


    • violence to life in the form of murder, whether committed or attempted, within the meaning of article 8(2)(c)(i) of the Statute;
    • intentionally directing attacks against personnel, installations, material, units or vehicles involved in a peacekeeping mission within the meaning of article 8(2)(e)(iii) of the Statute; and
    • pillaging within the meaning of article 8(2)(e)(v) of the Statute.


    On 8 february, 2010, Pre-Trial Chamber I refused to confirm the charges against Abu Garda. On 23 April, 2010, Pre-Trial Chamber I issued a decision rejecting the Prosecutor's application to appeal the decision declining to confirm the charges. The decision does not preclude the Prosecution from subsequently requesting confirmation of the charges if such a request is supported by additional evidence.


    ICC-02/05-03/09

    Pre-trial
    Case The Prosecutor v. Abdallah Banda Abakaer Nourain and Saleh Mohammed Jerbo Jamus

    Abdallah Banda Abakaer Nourain
    Abdallah Banda Abakaer Nourain ©ICC-CPI/Toussaint Kluiters Commander-in-Chief of Justice and Equality Mouvement Collective-Leadership, one of the components of the United Resistance Front
    Summonses to appear:

    Issued under seal on 27 August, 2009

    Unsealed on 15 June, 2010
    First appearence: 17 June 2010

    Saleh Mohammed Jerbo Jamus
    Saleh Mohammed Jerbo Jamus ©ICC-CPI/Toussaint Kluiters former Chief of Staff of SLA-Unity and currently integrated into Justice and Equality Mouvement
    Summonses to appear:

    Issued under seal on 27 August, 2009

    Unsealed on 15 June, 2010
    First appearence: 17 June 2010


    Counts

    Pre-Trial Chamber I considered that there are substantial grounds to believe that Abdallah Banda Abakaer Nourain (Banda) and Saleh Mohammed Jerbo Jamus (Jerbo) are criminally responsible as coperpetrators for three war crimes under article 25(3)(a) of the Rome Statute:

    violence to life, whether committed or attempted, within the meaning of article 8(2)(c)(i) of the Statute;
    intentionally directing attacks against personnel, installations, material, units or vehicles involved in a peacekeeping mission within the meaning of article 8(2)(e)(iii) of the Statute; and
    pillaging within the meaning of article 8(2)(e)(v) of the Statute.


    http://www.icc-cpi.int/Menus/ICC/Situations+and+Cases/Situations/Situation+ICC+0205/

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    The LRA also operates in South Sudan killing other real Christians and kidnapping animist children from the Dinka and Nuer tribes.. They have been butchering their way back and forth across central Africa for two decades.

    If they can be stopped, the milling refugee masses can settle down and start subsistence farming again.

    Shabaab and the LRA both have to go.

    Kony claims to be possessed....
     
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    I can only assume that you don't know anything about the LRA - the alternative is unthinkable.
     
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    It wasn't Muslim militias that were slaughtering and kidnapping all these years.. It was the LRA and that self proclaimed Christian Marxist, John Garang..

    The Sudanese government couldn't stop them..
     
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    Then Rush Limbaugh is that stupid in a different way. In Uganda we are being invited in by the local government to deal with the LRA, while in Sudan the Muslim militias operate with the tacit approval and covert assistance of the local government, so the USA would have to invade in order to go after them. That's a rather big difference.
     
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    What? What Muslim militias are operating in Sudan?
     
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    Joseph Kony's Lord's Resistance Army is one of the most brutal -- completely atrocious (!) -- forces out there. Boys are being kidnapped from villages to become soldiers, the girls are used as sex-slaves for the older commandants, mass-raping, mutulations which are so cruel that they are not even imaginable (pulling out eyes, cutting of penises, etc.). Yes, there even have been accussations of cannibalism!

    The LRA has been de-stabilizing the region for over two decades.

    South Sudan, the worlds last new country (remember the Referendum of January 2011 and the Proclamtion of Independence in July 2011?) is important because:

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    Capturing Joseph Kony is just an additional prize.
     
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    You ought to be ashamed of yourself!

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    So Barry has sent noncombat troops into a fight with the most brutal killers ever seen; more ruthless than the 9/11 terrorists and the suicide bombers in Iraq? How many of the advisors are women who could fall into the hands of LRA? Why not at least give our people a side arm so that they might return with their junk still attached?

    With both sides being killers for God; which side are we on? The islamo side?

    While I tend to believe the reports of LRA crimes we still have just as much evidence that Shabaab is just as bad. What we really have is a local culture of brutality that has taken up the cloak of one god or the other to hide behind. Both sides should be droned into the ground.

    What a joke. They want to bring me into their lies of despair? They want to include every person on this forum in their protest as being as lame and whining as they are?

    I am of the 70% that works hard to create wealth for the country. I create drilling tools to help us discover cheap energy for our future, I create new automotive designs that help us use less of the energy that we have left, I create ways to faster move our population from place to place, I create the concept of Blue Energy and design equipment to bring the cheapest energy on the planet to the people of the world.

    I am balanced on the cutting edge of innovation while the OWS punks huddle under a donated tarp and smoke dope, so don't include me in their numbers.
     
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    If that's the point he's trying to make it's just another proof that he's ignorant:
    http://ipsnews.net/africa/nota.asp?idnews=52159
     
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    This is just the latest example of Rushs ignorance. Im surprised anyone is really surprised by this. The limited deployment is a low risk ,high reward PR stunt for Obama.
     
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    Al Shabaab has only been around 2 years or so and they are in Somalia.

    I don't think you created the drill bit.. and I don't think you created Blue Energy.

    Our troops are NOT there to fight, but to train and advise.

    They have a some new tracking technology to stop the LRA's hacking their way back and forth across central Africa.
     
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    What happens in Uganda is none of America's business. Nothing good for America can come from involvement.
     
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    so america only interferes when there is muslims or communists involved?

    BTW - they are not just in uganda
     
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    The best policy for America is to limit its contact with the states of the eastern hemisphere. No exceptions.
     
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    Wow, I'm impressed! A few posts ago anything you heard about the LRA was 'hearsay' and now you you 'tend to believe' those same reports? Why would anyone take what you say here seriously?
     
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    No, America only interferes if there's a quid pro quo, either geo-political or financial.
     
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    America gained nothing from the fool's errand in Libya.
     

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